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Kent
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:53 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

The Beginning - Some Brief History

I had been interested in a B5 for quite some time after going to inters in Lee's a couple years back (Black RS4). Once while visiting Matt at Dubforce I saw an S4 on the ramps. I enquired as to what the story was with it and and was told it was in for rings and a part rebuild as it was burning oil. Mat Informed me it was up for sale once finished. A few weeks later the owner got in touch after Mat had given him my number and after running through the spec I knew I had to go see it.

A few weeks after that I was sold and knew it had to be mine. It wasnt the best cosmetically and had some accident damage on the NS Quarter but non of this bothered me as I enjoy messing, rescuing and modding. Without looking at any others I snapped it up as I the work it had received in the past year or so was quite considerable.

This is what I purchased (after a little clean)...



Some of you might remember this from here a couple of years ago. I think it belonged to 'RobEvo?' & 'TomElliot?'

As you can see it needed attention like the front putting back together properly but I was enjoying the K03/K04 hybrids in my first ever Audi / Quattro / B5 etc.

It came with a substantial MRC bill after remap (380bhp) and having egts etc done.

Hardware included:
- K03/K04 Hybrids
- RS4 Fuelling
- RS4 Intercoolers
- Downpipes / Decat & Miltek
- TTV Lightweight flywheel and RS4 clutch.
- 18" Audi TT? Wheels

This car was meant to just be a good fun winter runaround / daily as my MK2 was in pieces. Just tidy it up and run it I said to myself. Well that lasted all of about a week as I had to buy some Recaros for it...



Right thats its I said to myself, just look after it and enjoy it.. Dont spend any more on it.
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Kent
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:57 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Whoops

So much for looking after it and not spending any more money on it. After my bro lost his fight to cancer and my mate suddenly died shortly after I didnt step foot out of the house for a couple of days. When I decided venture out my head was still obviously up my @rse and in a daydream as driving along our road I suddenly found myself going sideways in the snow. Quickly countering to miss a BMW, then a wall I eventually found myself running out of road so had to park it in a flower bed...



B0llock5!

Got off lucky as no bags deployed so after dragging of a rock I drove it home and quickly got onto fixing it. This was my introduction to the man that goes by the name of Jimbo. Front panel and rads later I started stripping it...



All I needed then was some headlights and a bumper. Enter stage left... Reaper. Perhaps this accident was fate as my path was obviously meant to cross with these two people.



On closer inspection I realised the oil pan had cracked in the most minor way possible. Obviously it couldnt be just the bottom half I had to be the upper so I ended up having to drop the subframe.



Anyway after a few weeks off the road (struggling to find some parts etc) I was back up and running...

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Kent
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:00 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Some Little Treats

After all that I thought i would treat it and myself and get a few little treats to brighten up the cabin. The steering wheel was in a horrendous state all shiney and dirty and old. So after a little deal with my mate MJ i had a nice new steering wheel...



The gearknob was the same. Rather than buying an aftermarket job or whatever I thought id have a look at refurb mine. The knob and gaiter was redone in some leftover black nappa i had for the MK2 and I took the gearknob cover to pieces. I scratched all the gate detail and black paint off the underside and sanded down the little lug then replaced the information with a self-adhesive print on clear in mirror with a white back lam (one of my business is graphics printing). A quick polish of my knob (ooo-er) down to fine grade and i was left this this...



Why the RS4 I hear you all cry its only an S4!!!! ARGGGHHH how dare you??!!! Well after spending many nights browsing the forums I knew my mission was clear. Although one of the first (pathetic) little mods I thought I would start as I mean to go on and this would help me stay focused on the prize!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:02 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Gearbox

So it wasnt long I was back on the road until a noise started from the gearbox. Amazing! Sounded like a bearing and got progressively worse. Not wanting / being able to take the car off the road for too long I set about finding a replacement that I could swap out. Managed to get my hands on this one (RS4... obviously). (Massive thanks to Abdul on this).



Its got the common 1/2 hub issue so I got looking at replacement parts. After coming accross JHM I thought it would be rude to not to do some upgrading atleast while im in there! More on this later.
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Alex@Fontain
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:07 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

You're doing a nice job there; some very tasteful additions
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stuartx
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Power: 556
Torque: 728

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Location: Edinburgh

PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:20 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Sorry to hear of your loss buddy, been there and know its not easy, stick in though, keep busy and doing what your doing good work.

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Kent
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:31 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Cheers lads. Last year was just surreal with everything going on in family and business life. One positive from last year that enabled me to get through it all and have some me time was meeting two like minded individuals who I've taken on a unit with. I've always wanted my own little place to tinker.

So watch this space... much much more to come!

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reaper
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:46 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Obviously after our chat's over family issues on both sides, onward and upward bud

Good luck with the project 'K', looking forward to seeing the rest unfold
   
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RS4Jules
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Car: B7 RS4 supercharged
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:49 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

So sorry about your losses but glad you have found something to try and keep your mind busy  

I am tuned into this and cant wait to see it develop.
Yep you cant go wrong with MJ hes a top bloke,that steering wheel looks like one he leant me a while back while trimming an r32 one for me lol.

Also lovely touch with the gear knob,i love little attention to detail things like that  

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Kent
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:10 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Yeah life sure can be crazy Reaper as we all know. Just got to live it and make the most of it while you can. Can't worry too much about the consequences as long as your not harming anybody.

Your the 'attention to detail' king Jules. Im the same. I love things that keep you guessing for ages and then its like 'ohhh and he's done that i didnt notice that'.

I've had the chance to spend quite a bit of time up close with your B7 down at Juniors. Im don't dig all the air like all you bag fiends but really is a lovely motor. Top job. I'll admit the B7s do look completely MOBB when dropped on their arse.

Is that black B7 one of your boys down down there now?

Edit: And no its not 'the loner' wheel thank you very much!  
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RS4Jules
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:26 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Yes thats my mates,in fact ive helped him alot and its going to look pretty mega,i think its still sitting on my old rotors  

Yes i totally get the air thing but its shocking how good it is now.Mj is also doing a few bits for my old golf wagon at the minute too in the brown bentley leather.

Your comment re the details is exactly how i see it,like some will just see ow it has nice wheels and air but the big thing is finding all the small touches that inhance it all.

This is exactly what im trying to achieve with this old allroad im doing and theres one mod i love thats never been done before but i know alot wont even notice as not many people know about allroads    

Im due to visit MJ soon so i will send you a pm if your about mate    

Anyway,this is about your b5 lol,very jealous as im really into the saloons atm so cant wait till i can have a bash with one.

Keep up the great work  

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Kent
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:03 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Yeah do. Im normally not far away.

I could do with your expertise as chief wheel whore anyhow at some point over the next few weeks. Need some help with spacers.

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Kent
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:42 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Bad Boy Sounds

As the B5 comes with poxy speakers that were failing on me the next thing on the agenda was to sort the sounds. I wouldnt exactly call myself an Audiophile but I do love music and I do really love at least semi-decent audio equipment.

I dont drive everywhere on number 11 but I do like being able to turn up my system to whatever i desire depending on what im listening to and what mood im in.

Bass has got to kick and drop and mids and highs need to completely immerse you in sound in my book.

A few weeks ago i dropped in on my friends at Audio Images (Bradford) for somewhere to do the work that was clean and warm and for my friend Khalid to help and advise. For those that might of known MJ's G60 'back in the day', Khalid built the competition system in that. (Horns under the dash etc).



In it i decided to put:
- Kenwood MP3/IPOD/CD/Bluetooth hands free head unit up front. (you can change the illumination and buttons through 10 colours but the Red is perfect next to the S4 interior illumination and the black facia looks well in the console... i hate aftermarket units that dont match and really stick out in the cabin)
- Upfront - Focal Access 130 (5.25") 2 Ways.
- Rear Shelf - Focal Access 165 (6.5") 2 Way Co-axial.
- Massive Audio 4 x 80w RMS @ 4ohm (to power the fronts and shelf)
- Massive Audio 1 x 600w RMS (to power the 2 12s)
- 2x Massive Audio 12" Subs (in a ported box)



Little details...
- Completely ripped out all the existing system and cables (i cant stress how rubbish factory cables are)
- Power - I ran two fused supplies from the battery via a gland i drilled into the ecu box (later filled with silicone), down into the drivers kick panel and rearwards in the door trim.
- RCAs - As the Kenwood has 3 pre-outs I can control the cross over from the head unit. So i ran three pairs in a loom to the rear via the passenger footwell and rearwards down the door trim. (all these cables came out nicely under the rear bench.
- Amp Mounting - I fixed neatly to the rear of the one of the fold down benches.
- Speaker hole conversion - I used the 'Concept2' adaptors to convert the rear shelf from square to round 6.5". And same again to step up the pathetic 4" drivers to 5.25". Here i modified the adaptor by shaving some of the little 'legs' off it. So I could double sided tape it to the card and then screw it. The design wasnt very good from Concept 2 as it would have left a gap which is a big no no. Its all about a good solid seal with door speakers!
- Front Doors - by removing the casing on the focal tweeter i could locate it back in the original Audi location and fix it in place with the OEM fastener. The crossover I located on and glued onto the bottom rear of the card and sticky pad & cable tie the wires neatly. I cut away enough of the big foam block in the door to make room for the crossover when the door card was mounted.

All mounted up...



After building the car back up and tweeking with the settings for a good hour I was a happy boy. I was semi-worried the 5.25" weren't going to impress me after always been used to 6.5"s up front but I was amazed.. they really sound good. I think this is pure testament to how solid we were able to mount them in the door card (more time spent on this the better). I can crank them up with no distortion. (I set my all the gains on my setups to distort at say 29 (if the max vol on headunit is 30). This way I have full progressive control over the volume. I've just got to keep idiot friends away from the volume control.)

The coaxs in the shelf fill the rear of the car perfectly and support the fronts nicely. It's amazing how much better audio sounds in a car like an audi in comparison to something like an old golf. They are worlds apart in how they handle the sound. And the subs... well they don't need any explaining. Junk in the trunk...

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:55 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Awesome

Great work considering your recent sad events.

M

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:13 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Cheers dude. Going to be coming at you thick and fast over the next few weeks!

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