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derdle

BBC and Sky to share F1 coverage

Appalling news:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/9550930.stm

Sky is "bigging it up" by saying that races will be broadcast in HD .... but the BBC already do that.

F1 on the BBC has probably one of the largest viewing figures of any BBC programme and they're being forced to give it up. Is this down to the greedy bar stewards at F1? All of a sudden the TV Licence fee doesn't seem such good value.
buzzard

That's absolutly crap

Worse news I have heard

BBC did a great job and I bet with sky you can't watch later like you can with iplayer

Just utter shite that is
derdle

Not that I intend to subscribe to skysports, but I bet the coverage will be peppered with poxy adverts for injury lawyers etc.
Jonmurgie

Great - and I suppose Sky will stick it on their "sports" channels meaning that those without them will have to upgrade to get F1 live...

Saw that the BBC were having to cut it back which is crazy as it's one of there most successful programs!!

Sad times indeed...
AliGod78

Not good news...
Jonmurgie

Slightly more info: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93447
derdle

There are loads of senior citizens that love and watch F1 - they can't afford a skysports subscription (even if they could understand how to operate the HD box) - what are they going to do? Mind you, I suppose the highlights will be on at silly times in the morning so they can watch it then.
BennyBoo

Berny Francis (The Dick) wrote:
Sky Sports' managing director Barney Francis added: "This is fantastic news for F1 fans and Sky Sports will be the only place to follow every race live and in HD.
derdle

If you want to watch every race live, then you have to subscribe to:

Subscribe to Sky
Subscribe to SkySports
Subscribe to HD

Great move by the Murdoch/Sky empire.
BennyBoo

I have Sky and SkyHD.. All channels

But I refuse to pay that much for Sports and/or Movies.

Does this mean it wont even be on BBC-HD..?
samj

Yep that is correct, I won't be buying sports just for the sake of F1 either. In fact out of utter disgust I will be boycotting it altogether, let's see if the greedy old tw*t ecclestone thinks it's a good idea when the viewing figures halve.

I'm so disappointed in this; again a money driven decision with no thought for the fans - its appalling.
derdle

samj wrote:
Yep that is correct, I won't be buying sports just for the sake of F1 either. In fact out of utter disgust I will be boycotting it altogether, let's see if the greedy old tw*t ecclestone thinks it's a good idea when the viewing figures halve.

I'm so disappointed in this; again a money driven decision with no thought for the fans - its appalling.


Sadly Bernie won't give a flying f**k - he's got his money out of the Sky/BBC.
dest

Weve already got Sky HD here too but I wont be watching it on Sky Sports.

Goodbye F1
A20 LEE

Very sad indeed, F1 is the only sport i watch so couldn't justify subscribing to sky sport to watch it once a fortnight.
pjbRs

Wtf ? That's crazy! BBC will show half of some races? Plus free practice and qualifying, so BBC staff film it and Sky edit it full of adverts and charge us a fortune to view it!
Jonmurgie

Another question is - who's actually going to be presenting it?

Unless Sky take over the BBC team (Jake, Dave, Eddie, Mark etc.) I doubt they will get the respect or access the BBC currently enjoys giving us far worse coverage

Adverts too no doubt - back to the terrible ITV days

Bad times for the sport indeed...
MarkB

It's the end of F1 watching for me.
pjbRs

I think I'll wait and see the full details, but it's not worth paying for sky just for F1, no doubt sky will use this to up it's prices too.
So annoying when the BBC are so good at live events, I recon the beeb should have a pay per view channel to top up it's revenue.
derdle

pjbs wrote:
I think I'll wait and see the full details, but it's not worth paying for sky just for F1, no doubt sky will use this to up it's prices too.
So annoying when the BBC are so good at live events, I recon the beeb should have a pay per view channel to top up it's revenue.


Ahh .. that would fit in with Sky's promise not to increase its prices for 12 months from July 2011.
BennyBoo

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13143365

All about the money then..?

And yes, the prices will go up at the start of the F1 season, falls just outside the 'No Price Increase' promise..
Adrian E

I've never felt the urge to subscribe to sky and stick a dish on the outside of the house, and this certainly won't make me change my mind!  Will just not be bothering to watch any more - can't see the point in watching half the races and missing the rest, or getting a cut down version of what happened hours after it's finished.

Only option I can think of is finding a way to watch online coverage from abroad live, with Radio 5 Live running in the background....
loomx

Sky have confirmed that there wont be adverts, but im not paying for SkySports, its a rip off. Its bad enough having to pay another 10 a month just to watch stuff in HD.
AliGod78

loomx wrote:
Sky have confirmed that there wont be adverts, but im not paying for SkySports, its a rip off. Its bad enough having to pay another 10 a month just to watch stuff in HD.


Exactly. I ended my Sports subscription a couple years back now. Ah well, if we're lucky we won't notice any difference...  
BennyBoo

Adrian E wrote:

Only option I can think of is finding a way to watch online coverage from abroad live, with Radio 5 Live running in the background....


Haha, I used to watch the big football matches online..

I always preferred the Chinese commentators, they're so excitable!
Graham

BBC HD coverage has been great. I won't be paying Sky to watch.
Matt_D

F'king joke this I'm well pi$$ed off
pete-p

That'll be the end of me watching all the races then, I'm not going to be getting Sky as I already use Freesat.  A pity really as has been said already, the BBC are doing a good job and only getting better.

On another note I notice that Hamilton has been fastest in free practice so far at Hungary, I hope he keeps that up for qualifying.
Steve_C

Very bad news - the BBC coverage was excellent.  Will have to find some website that shows it in a foreign language....
DavidT

Bugger!

Not happy with this, but the BBC just could not afford it and will therefore see this as a good outcome not that we do though.

FP 1,2 & 3 with Ant & Crofty are excellent and it looks like we will keep those.

I respect Sky as a business but I don't like them. We only have the basic package and I think that can go as of today!
pjbRs

We ditched sky years ago, gone over to Virgin and i'm happy were i am, murdoch must be thinking about extra revenue to pay off all these z list non celebs.
A20 LEE

Sky sports only get 2.5 million viewers for a big football match.  F1 is much less popular so i'd guess it would loose 90% of its 10million viewers on sky!  Thats got to hurt the teams selling sponsorship?
scoobydood

Jonmurgie wrote:
Great - and I suppose Sky will stick it on their "sports" channels meaning that those without them will have to upgrade to get F1 live...

Saw that the BBC were having to cut it back which is crazy as it's one of there most successful programs!!

Sad times indeed...


I won't be upgrading. Exactly what Sky want.
HEKTOR

gutted
kiz

Death of f1
Parptoot

kiz wrote:
Death of f1


It probably will be for me, it's going in the wrong directions in more ways that the channel swap though.

Bernie out!!
philws4

Certainly won't be giving Murdoch and his cronies any more of my money so as they say I'm out
confusionhunter

me too, Ive been pretty unimpressed with sky from Day one when I had to switch from Virgin, and my bills are much higher than from virgin. Im just not in a cabled area.

Really annoyed about the F1 thing and Im about to look into Tivo! The straw that brok the camels back. It just seems all one way with sky, prices always seem to go up (price freeze my arse, go look at the terms.... you never get anything upgraded for free. Provided you make no changes to your plan and most changes tie you up in a 12 month contract. I remember Virgin kept upgrading bandwith all the time for the same charge.

Would have virgin back in a flash if I was in a cabled area.....
confusionhunter

Baws, Tivo is cable.....
ian52

Cant they just scrap coverage of cricket to save money? How many people watch that compared to F1? I dont have sky sports and dont intend to get it. I dont watch football so why should i have to bend over to watch half the races.
Jonmurgie

Having just finished off watching todays Quali it makes me even more sad to think we're going to loose what's simply FIRST CLASS production of a great sport (the only sport I bother watching), it's just so well done there isn't anything Sky can do except make it worse
confusionhunter

interesting analysis...
http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/55698.html

beebs statement and many pages of angry fans
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/sporte..._coverage_to_be_shared_betwe.html

Whitmarsh has been told BBCs non live races will be full not highlights but not live
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/14349356.stm
graemep

Anyone else pick up on Martin Brundle's comment during qualifying at the weekend? He's obviously not impressed either.
Jonmurgie

Not finished watching the race yet but everyone was getting in on the action with comments about Sky, had to launch at Webbers comment on the grid after Bernie had just been speaking to him

I feel sorry for the presenting team - they looked as hacked off about it as most of us.
quattrokid

motorsport coverage on telly is ARSE !!  

NEVER SEEN ANY Le Mans or DTM on terrestrial telly,  the worlds most famous motor race and its not even mentioned in the media either, a wee clip on the back page because McNish got well and truely stuffed into the barriers!!

F1 ia arse as well.... no overtaking, too any rules and regs that changes as often as Bernie gets a bit from his Mrs !!

future coverage will be pay per view... we already pay to view... its called the f'ing TV licence and look how much shyte we already have to face!! Big Brother, soaps etc should be on pay per view then perhaps all that mind bending total bildge telly will be cleared into the sad bar stewards channels and perhaps the BBC will concentrate in making and showing decent programs instead

F1 is a bunch of rich kids on a weekend procession!! bring back the likes of Mansell, Senna, Prost, not these pussies of todays offerings  
noodles

^^^^Agreed,Mansell,Senna and Prost etc would scared the sh-t out this lot that drive today.
Parptoot

I think it should be no holes barred, 'if you can afford to fit it then fit it' system. Turbos, supechargers, big aero packages etc.

This will mean a two or three tier system but that will just liven it all up and keep them thinking.

Maybe the Beeb will keep it if there was a bit more excitement to be had.
confusionhunter

http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/keepf1onthebbc
AliGod78

Singed, for what it's worth.
30,000 signatures so far...
Jonmurgie

AliGod78 wrote:
Singed, for what it's worth..


Exactly - what do people really think is going to happen, the BBC back down and decided to flog off some other service?

It's not going to happen, it's not going to change, not unless Bernie takes the signs out of his eyes and considers the FANS for a change - selling it to BBC for a price they can afford so they can continue full coverage.
dest

AliGod78 wrote:
Singed, for what it's worth.
30,000 signatures so far...


Its SUNG, not singed  
I dont think singing will make much difference though mate  

But seriously, I hope they reverse this daft idea, but I doubt it as far too much money will be influencing it all  
AliGod78

We should riot. Whose with me?
lol. Joking. . .
How about we get all F1 drivers when they're next in the UK to park up around strategic locations in London to bring it to a stand still? Affecting the economy would get someones attention. More so than a petition, I agree. Likely the police would be the only ones to notice though
dest

I wouldnt think the F1 drivers care too much either way
AdamS4

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/57

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Keep-F1-on-BBC/149121281832578
RS_Nicks

AliGod78 wrote:
Singed, for what it's worth.
30,000 signatures so far...


"singed" is probably more appropriate!  

Just signed up now and only 11,000 sigs!??!

Have some of the signatures gone to sky as part of the "sharing" deal?!?

Pees me right off too - especially as i understand there was an official contract to keep f1 in the free-to-air domain. Sky can easily command 70-100 a month for licences per household, and people are still paying it!!

What I dont understand is how no-one in government either cares or has realised that sky are gradually gaining more and more direct control of not only the airwaves, but also of the sports themselves - it's a vicious circle; look at premiership football and the stupid salaries and bankrupt clubs - all kept going, partially at least, by the huge payments from sky tv contracts.

Madness. And a very sad development for motorsport AND the BBC. another nail in the BBC licence coffin..
A20 LEE

I read that the global viewing figures for F1 are 600million per race so Bernie really doesn't care about 10million uk viewers.
confusionhunter

but the UK based companies and sponsors do....
noodles

Bernie won't care,all he sees is ,people like him who have that much money, only have one thing on their mind,much wants more!!
Ghost

Any link do we think?

News Corporation and investment firm Exor have confirmed they are exploring the possibility of forming a consortium to bid for control of Formula One.
derdle

e-petition on the HM Government e-petitions site.

100,000 signatures needed so it can be debated in Parliament..

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/57
Ghost

Deals done I'm afraid time to adjust guys we are talking Bernie here $$$, sad I know.

Petition is a waste of your time, although go for it if you wish.
derdle

Ghost wrote:
Deals done I'm afraid time to adjust guys we are talking Bernie here $$$, sad I know.

Petition is a waste of your time, although go for it if you wish.


It may be done and dusted but this is a show of strength and a voice of the people. Don't just roll-over.
derdle

Just been looking at the Sky package - it seems that if you are a Sky Sports subscriber or Sky+HD subscriber then you'll get the F1 coverage as part of your package.

Noticed in Twitter this morning that Martin Brundle has signed for Sky.
BennyBoo

derdle wrote:
Just been looking at the Sky package - it seems that if you are a Sky Sports subscriber or Sky+HD subscriber then you'll get the F1 coverage as part of your package.

Noticed in Twitter this morning that Martin Brundle has signed for Sky.


Quote:
Sky TV subscribers who have access to both Sky Sports 1 and Sky Sports 2, or the HD pack of channels, will not have to pay any extra for the dedicated F1 channel. Those who have not subscribed to the Sky+HD package will receive a standard-definition version of the new channel.


WIN!

(still have to buy Sky though...)
loomx

I know, I saw this a few days ago too! So happy!!! pretty much everyone has the HD package, so this is brilliant!
Mark

I wonder what package you need with Virginmedia to get it?
DavidT

Is HD still 10/month? We have a basic Sky package but no sport or HD.
BennyBoo

10.50 now i think..
Mark

MarkB@WagnerTuning wrote:
I wonder what package you need with Virginmedia to get it?


https://my.virginmedia.com/customer-news/articles/SKYF1/    
BennyBoo

haha, nice update by Virgin there.. I wonder if they'll premote anything else sky does..?
DavidT

http://f1.sky.com/
Graham

BennyBoo wrote:
10.50 now i think..


It gets worse. Until it's next to nothing extra I won't upgrade. In the new year I'll likely try and ditch Sky for a while and see how I get on with just freeview and freesat.
BennyBoo

NO! it's not 10.50... its 10.25...
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