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HEKTOR's b5 rs4 build

This is my b5 rs4 build thread,  I thought it was about time to put this up and let you lot see what I have planned and to see what you think.  The main reasons for doing this build are I don’t like the way my car runs and do not enjoy driving it the way I used to plus its always nice to have something a bit different which I hope this will be and also being in Johnny b’s silver s4 and having him nearly kill us    (only joking Johnny)  Im also going to put a poll up so you can have a guess at what power my car makes before it blows up!!!!

Current spec

Mrc custom map
Mrc/milltek 3” down pipes mated to milltek exhaust
ITG panel filter
B7 front brakes
ESP DTS
Hotchkiss front + rear roll bars
And a few other bits


Quick run down on engine spec

Loba lo700 turbos
Loba intake pipes
Loba charge pipes (if my budget can stretch)
MTM compression lowering head gaskets
MTM v2 manifolds (cheers jimbo)
Loba sintered 700nm clutch + flywheel (maybe something different,  again depends on budget)
FMIC or SMIC im undecided  (maybe Wagner since I cant get loba,  but fmic will be cheaper)
25 row mocal oil cooler
Water/meth
044 bosch fuel pump
Bosch ev14 750cc or bigger injectors
Viper map

Suspension etc spec

Bilstein pss9’s
034 front arms
034 alloy sub frame bushes front + rear
Apicol rear diff mount
Rebush top + bottom rear arms
Maybe apical diff carrier mounts and a few other bits (budget permitting)


Added extras

Podi rs4 boost gauge
Phaeton front discs + pagid pads
Mill rear discs and add new standard pads
Buy a mint avus rear spoiler or repair the 1 that broke off
Some paint work when I have the money
Full loba engine build using their parts when I win the lotto!!!!
New wheels and tyres which I collected last night thanks to a good friend (des the horder of all things rare and expensive) I nearly died when he agreed to sell me the wheels.  Cheers des,  cant wait to get them on!!!!!

All parts that come off my car will be checked and priced accordingly before they are ready to be sold,  let me know if you are interested in anything.

Any suggestions, fire away the more info and help I get the better my build will be.
Cheers guys,  and enjoy

eddie
Imol4vant

You'll be busy. Won the lottery?
GrantF

Not going for the LO750 turbos?
HEKTOR

I wish  
HEKTOR

no chance grant!!!!  I cant afford it and i doubt the engine could cope,
guymcc

Good luck with the whole project matey!!!

Will be good to see and hear of the progress!!

What wheels and tyres did you get?? If they are not 18"s then I may be after 1 cheap tyre for my spare wheel.

Just a shame the car is avus!!        
davs4

Looks like a good build going on there mate  
HEKTOR

Cheers guy,  i will keep this thread up to date and get pictures up asap.

I got 19" wheels but i think i will keep the standard ones for the winter,  if i dont i'll give you a shout.  Check ebay as you can pick up some cheap tyres.

Dont knock the avus,  its the best colour and soon to be rapid lol

Hows the relocation been going?  When you coming down for a bit of banter and a shot in the car?
HEKTOR

thanks dave,  i should be a good build and the end result imo will be great.  Not the best out there but the best i can afford and hopefully get me loving my car again
davs4

It will definitely re ignite the love Eddie (mine did) but..............you will soon get used to the power and want more  
HEKTOR

dont say that dave,  the money tree is nearly bare so more power is not an option.  Only thing i can think of is use the mrs yaris then drive the rs that will prevent me getting used to the power.
davs4

Haha ye that will work......... that's why I cycle to work in the week  
supersi

It's a full on build you got planned there eddie lots and lots of parts,  I hope and have voted for over 650hp, if not very close on this build i think myself, will be interesting to see again as  johnnys poll was...

But that said I'd recommend you dial it back a little to protect your investment as on STD bottomend and valvetrain just my 2p worth, maybe not needed but best to be safe IMO

Love the wheels you managed to get, they really make a rs4 special.

we need pics now.
S4Player

I agree with supersi the scientist eddie boy I reckon aim for 620ish and you'll be happy and safe until you can do the valvetrain and bottom end bud just my 2cents worth
supersi

Only thing that has me thinking is the wagners, I wonder if there hold you back a little, but that said...590+ps was made  on STD rs4 smic so maybe not ?
audimad100

this is going to make good power with that spec Eddie. good luck with the build mate keep us posted with plenty of pics    
arotished

Dont think the RS4 Wager SMIC will hold him back
supersi

arotished wrote:
Dont think the RS4 Wager SMIC will hold him back


When I said that,  wasnt I knocking them, as they was my choice to Eddie over fmic

Just think maybe on dyno numbers,  where the sidemounts just dont get the airflow to perform as they would out on openroad
S4Player

I reckon 625 mate tops and around 750nms good results but you should have bought tfc engine
HEKTOR

cheers guys,  i've got a few pics to stick up,  nothing big just boost gauge and a few other parts.  The loba goodness will soon be splashed all over this thread.

Dave has the spoiler arrived yet?  

Si if i make 650 i will be over the moon,  crazy power done on a tight budget.  You have been a great help and i hope you dont mind me pestering you all the time    As for wagners i think i will go down that route but they are expensive compared with fmic so money will be a factor over performance.  Si i cant stop looking at the wheels,  just need to decide on what colour then refurb, fit an stand back and admire,  imo one of the best wheels that can go on the b5.  Its a secret  

Cheers paul,  620 will be nuts but if more can be had then thats what i will run within reason.  As for tfc engine,  if i could afford your engine i would have taken it,  but when i get the money im going for pewter rods, mahle pistons and loba top end,  best parts for the job and will last the course.  Mind you agreed to give m a shot of tfc when it comes home to glasgow  
arotished

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arotished wrote:

Just think maybe on dyno numbers,  where the sidemounts just dont get the airflow to perform as they would out on openroad


Yeah, good point..
marc1

Good luck Eddie - this has been a long time coming for you, bet you are literally jumping up and down with excitement.  Will be keeping a close eye on your progress.
HEKTOR

thanks marc,  yeah im excited,  but im inpatient and what it done now lol  

How do you upload pictures to this thread?  I've got a few to be posted up
quattrokid

use photobucket to host your photos then link then here
HEKTOR

I will get on to it now.  Cheers rich
GrantF

Or use the "Upload File or Image to Gallery" feature located under the text box area, to use the myff picture hosting


guymcc

^^Rgr, not rocket Eddie!!!
HEKTOR

cheers grant.

Ha ha guy,  hopefully the car will be the rocket for a change
HEKTOR

just a few pics



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guymcc

Nice Mate!

Liking the fact they are all over the kitchen surfaces aswell! Happy
HEKTOR








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arotished

Love those disc!

Phaeton 365mm?
HEKTOR

yeah phaeton discs,  really heavy but i think they will be better than the b7 rs4 discs,  much cheaper to.

How is your amazing build getting on?
MilkybarKid

HEKTOR wrote:
pewter rods

Don't think pewter would last too long as rods

Wikipedia wrote:
Pewter is a malleable metal alloy, traditionally 85–99% tin, with the remainder consisting of copper, antimony, bismuth and lead. Copper and antimony act as hardeners while lead is common in the lower grades of pewter, which have a bluish tint. It has a low melting point, around 170–230 °C (338–446°F), depending on the exact mixture of metals.

Think you mean Pauter  
JasonA

Nice one Eddie, its going to be a pretty full on build! Interested to see how this pans out!    
audimad100

HEKTOR wrote:
cheers guys,  i've got a few pics to stick up,  nothing big just boost gauge and a few other parts.  The loba goodness will soon be splashed all over this thread.

Dave has the spoiler arrived yet?  

Si if i make 650 i will be over the moon,  crazy power done on a tight budget.  You have been a great help and i hope you dont mind me pestering you all the time    As for wagners i think i will go down that route but they are expensive compared with fmic so money will be a factor over performance.  Si i cant stop looking at the wheels,  just need to decide on what colour then refurb, fit an stand back and admire,  imo one of the best wheels that can go on the b5.  Its a secret  

Cheers paul,  620 will be nuts but if more can be had then thats what i will run within reason.  As for tfc engine,  if i could afford your engine i would have taken it,  but when i get the money im going for pewter rods, mahle pistons and loba top end,  best parts for the job and will last the course.  Mind you agreed to give m a shot of tfc when it comes home to glasgow  

they tried to deliver it of friday but the Mrs was on the beach re-scheduled for tuesday
arotished

HEKTOR wrote:
yeah phaeton discs,  really heavy but i think they will be better than the b7 rs4 discs,  much cheaper to.

How is your amazing build getting on?


Ohhh, heavier then RS4 B7 disc?

My "amazing" build (thanks btw!) as currently taking a pause while LOBA are assembling the engine in hamburg at the moment

Thinking if I should go with a 1x413 and 2x044 fuel pump solution with a surgetank for E85 fueling!
HEKTOR

it should be good jason,  hopefully quick and without problems.

Dave thats good news,  let me know when you get it and i hope you are happy with it.  Shame its being painted noggy lol

arotished i wish i could build mine like yours but im clearly way poorer than you lol What sort of power are you aiming for now?  Keep your thread updated as its the best build at the moment,  and you are going to have an amazing car when its all finished!!

Next update will be mtm manifolds when they arrive and a load of 034 parts followed by all the goodness from loba!!!!
quattrokid

MilkybarKid wrote:
HEKTOR wrote:
pewter rods

Don't think pewter would last too long as rods

Wikipedia wrote:
Pewter is a malleable metal alloy, traditionally 85–99% tin, with the remainder consisting of copper, antimony, bismuth and lead. Copper and antimony act as hardeners while lead is common in the lower grades of pewter, which have a bluish tint. It has a low melting point, around 170–230 °C (338–446°F), depending on the exact mixture of metals.

Think you mean Pauter  


     
arotished

HEKTOR wrote:

Next update will be mtm manifolds when they arrive and a load of 034 parts followed by all the goodness from loba!!!!


Why MTM manifolds before LOBA's beauty's?
HEKTOR

cant afford loba manifolds.  The mtm manifolds will do the job just find i think and i got them for an ok price.
arotished

thought the MTM was more expensive then LOBA manifolds.
HEKTOR

they may well be,  but i managed to get a set that are second hand and have recently reen recoated.  Lets just hope they perform well!!!

What do you think of the loba manifolds?  Are you going to run loba smic's?
arotished

The LOBA manifolds are beautiful and everyone comments on them when they look at my project.

I'm gonna go for LOBA SMIC when they are released. (I sold my wagner RS4 SMIC)
HEKTOR

I think the loba manifolds are stunning and with i could have afforded them.  I asked si for the loba smic's but i was told they are not yet ready and wont be ready within the time frame im looking to build the car.

How much did you sell he wagners for?  How do you rate them?  I may go for them but fmic is cheaper and if i can save money there i can spend somewhere else.
andyevo

HEKTOR wrote:
yeah phaeton discs,  really heavy but i think they will be better than the b7 rs4 discs,  much cheaper to.

How is your amazing build getting on?


Hey Eddie, those disc's look familiar!!!  

Good luck with the build buddy, i will be keeping a close eye on the thread  
Alps

Eddie, it's all finally about to take off

I've still got your number stored. Sorry I haven't returned your call yet. Things went from being worryingly quiet to excitingly manic

Will definitely try and bell you in the next couple of days.
HEKTOR

they do andy    heavy fookers too!!!!  should work well,  and be bettr than the b7 rs4 discs which i hate.  Yeah keep an eye on it and hopefully it will force you to get back into a b5 again  

No worries alps,  just give me a call whenever and have a chat about what you should do.  Answer is easy though "MORE POWER"  

I should have a few more pics of manifolds and maybe wheels if i cant keep the secret any longer    over he next few days,  and it wont be to long untill the 034 parts will be on show  

cheers guys
guymcc

I know what wheels you've got so you may as well show everyone before I do!  
quattrokid

go on then Guy.... you know you want to  
HEKTOR

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO  
s4_driver

do you know when the loba coolers will be ready?

Have you compared the loba manifolds vs. the wagner?
HEKTOR

not sure when they will be ready,  speak with supersi (simon) for more details.

Not compared both,  but i think the loba manifolds will out perform the mtm by some way.  I would have bought the loba manifolds if i could have afforded them,  but managed to get a good deal on the mtm ones.  If you are interested in the loba ones speak to si and he will give details and prices.
MilkybarKid

I heard you were going to be using a set of these:



HEKTOR

i was thinking of using wolfrace multi spokes,  but those look great.  How much are those and where do youget them?  
MilkybarKid

I am an avid collector of 3 and 4 spoke wheels as you know.
My aim is to collect every set ever made, then melt them.
How is the parts collection getting on now?
HEKTOR

ha ha well i think i will give buying any 3-4 spoke wheels to you.  Best thing for them mate lol

Its going not to bad,  manifolds have been posted so wont take long to come and hopefully the 034 stuff wont take to long.  So im getting there.  I should have some final prices tommorrow and then get all the big parts ordered and then let the fun begin!!!
HEKTOR

mtm manifolds arrived this morning  






Playo

Lovely! this is coming along nicely now mate

Oh, and EVRYONE knows TSW Venom's is where the real wheel game is at Lol
HEKTOR

cheers mate.  Lets hope it continues

HAHAHA you gotta love the venom's classic wheel lol  I need to find out if they do them in 20" and get them back on the scene!!!! they would win me shows on their own!!!!
jimbo

glad they got there ok, i never knew what the 4 m6 threaded holes were for on the top face of the log, neither did qst, it would be a good idea to make a couple of tin heat sheilds utilizing them though.
HEKTOR

cheers for sending the so quickly jimbo and also for doing me a good deal.

I was woundering what they where for,  i will see what the mechanic makes of them before fitting.

Enjoy the money lol
RS4Jules

Wow this is some project,I look forward to seeing the figures you make.

Good work Hektor  
HEKTOR

thanks jules,  im looking forward to seeing the numbers too!!  I think if it makes 650+ it will be dialled down to save the engine for the time being!!

So far its been fun,  but trying to get parts for a price that fits into budget is driving me mad lol

Cheers

eddie
RS4Jules

HEKTOR wrote:
thanks jules,  im looking forward to seeing the numbers too!!  I think if it makes 650+ it will be dialled down to save the engine for the time being!!

So far its been fun,  but trying to get parts for a price that fits into budget is driving me mad lol

Cheers

eddie


I'm the same trying to source parts,but sometimes i try to be to clever and lose out.
Bet when you do get a bargain its does make you feel good    

I think anything over 550bhp in a b5 is pretty damn special  


Theres no point me trying to make the b7 fast,i cant afford a charger lol
HEKTOR

Im the same,  i am always on the look out for a bargain,  but i have lost a few £££ over the years lol  I got my new wheels for a decent price but i think just getting them mademe feel good lol  Just bought spacers so i will get more pics up when the arrive.  I cant wait for the loba parts.  They are stunning to look at and i will let you know how they perform lol

Being in johnny b's before he fitted the manifolds,  and that was amazing,  it must be insane now!!!  so if mine ends up like his i will be in for a treat!!!

Speak to grizz,  ask if he can do a discount lol or just steal superchargedrs4's lol
RS4Jules

HEKTOR wrote:
Im the same,  i am always on the look out for a bargain,  but i have lost a few £££ over the years lol  I got my new wheels for a decent price but i think just getting them mademe feel good lol  Just bought spacers so i will get more pics up when the arrive.  I cant wait for the loba parts.  They are stunning to look at and i will let you know how they perform lol

Being in johnny b's before he fitted the manifolds,  and that was amazing,  it must be insane now!!!  so if mine ends up like his i will be in for a treat!!!

Speak to grizz,  ask if he can do a discount lol or just steal superchargedrs4's lol


I did hint to Grizz about a demo car,he just laughed and said nice try    

I would love Danny's itsounds amazing  
HEKTOR

ha ha ha that sounds like grizz,  I've been building up to asking him to do mine for free    I can already hear the phone hanging up  

It does sound great.  He drives it like he stole it aswell so you can hear the thing for miles.  We stay opposite sides of glasgow city centre and im sure i can hear it every now and then  
quattrokid

i have a great onboard video of it  

Grizz isnt the 1 to worry about Ed... its Lee, he'll have you pinned to the wall and your pockets filled with heavy spanners in no time      

THEN Rhian will insert a huge bill between your teeth while Grizz pulls down on yer knackers       as you bit down you have just paper punched your bill ready for Rhian's filing cabinet  
arotished

RS4Jules wrote:
I think anything over 550bhp in a b5 is pretty damn special  


550 on a 2.7 is so yesterday  
HEKTOR

Ha ha ha rich,  i hope thats not the case,  im a tramp who is skint and being scottish i wont give my money away without a fight      

550 is good power but 650 is where the game is at!!!!!  I will end up with egg on my face and get 649.9 and be refused entry t the 650+ club      
quattrokid

well you get your car to Grizz & Lee and you'll have 650.1 bhp  

oh and I'd pay to see you tackle Lee.... he doesnt need  the car lift and he drinks hot engine oil straight from the sump



AND... the Grizzlets are hong kong phooey trained as well    
HEKTOR

dont forget rich im fae the toon      i fancy my chances  
quattrokid

Oh boy your for it now mate !! Better have Paul in your corner then and Lee you have the fighting Panda in yours      
JohnnyB

HEKTOR wrote:
Im the same,  i am always on the look out for a bargain,  but i have lost a few £££ over the years lol  I got my new wheels for a decent price but i think just getting them mademe feel good lol  Just bought spacers so i will get more pics up when the arrive.  I cant wait for the loba parts.  They are stunning to look at and i will let you know how they perform lol

Being in johnny b's before he fitted the manifolds,  and that was amazing,  it must be insane now!!!  so if mine ends up like his i will be in for a treat!!!

Speak to grizz,  ask if he can do a discount lol or just steal superchargedrs4's lol


My car is night and day difference now. When I can get it to hold 28psi to redline will be well over the 600bhp. The torque is what makes my car so fast and leaves cars with more power behind.

Looking forward to seeing the results Eddie should be pretty special.

You off to ADI????
HEKTOR

If im getting a shot of your s4,  i will walk down if i have to  
JohnnyB

You will love it.
jimbo

top tip eddie, when you come to fit the manifolds put them in a hot oven first for about 15 mins to get them nice and hot then using an oven glove offer them onto the studs and they will both slide on like a glove , if you fit them cold you will need a rubber mallet and a peice of wood to get them on along with a fair bit of tapping.  
JohnnyB

jimbo wrote:
top tip eddie, when you come to fit the manifolds put them in a hot oven first for about 15 mins to get them nice and hot then using an oven glove offer them onto the studs and they will both slide on like a glove , if you fit them cold you will need a rubber mallet and a peice of wood to get them on along with a fair bit of tapping.  


This translates to "You will need a sledge hammer and JohnnyB and his 20 stone to bash the b*stards on with"      
HEKTOR

ha ha ha fook that then,  im staying standard  

Anyone fancy mtm manifolds? just disregard jimbo's previous statement,  they fit like a glove without the need for johnny to butter them up  
jimbo

or just use some "ky"  

























other lubes are available ...
HEKTOR

is that what you say to all the girls???
JohnnyB

Just smash it in! BOSCH!    
HEKTOR

       belter!!!
HEKTOR

grizz at unit 20 will be doing this build for me.  Looking forward to getting it done and having it done by one of the best in the business.

Hopefully grizz will take loads of pics of the loba parts and when everything is getting fitted.  It should keep you lot entertained and show some of the quality products that can be had from our forum sponsor and the quality work that grizz can knock out.

Im waiting on somemore parts to come,  i will post up pics asap.

cheers
JohnnyB

HEKTOR wrote:
grizz at unit 20 will be doing this build for me.  Looking forward to getting it done and having it done by one of the best in the business.

Hopefully grizz will take loads of pics of the loba parts and when everything is getting fitted.  It should keep you lot entertained and show some of the quality products that can be had from our forum sponsor and the quality work that grizz can knock out.

Im waiting on somemore parts to come,  i will post up pics asap.

cheers


Grizz will do a good job.
quattrokid

I hope so as well... or I'll have to offer him a lift home in my also Unit 20 resurrected UrS4





AND Imol4avant is in the Unit20 drydock on Monday the 19th Sept so I'll get the phots of that timing belt & rear brake upgrade  

the Scottish Boys are coming down in force to Unit20 on the 17th Sept weekend : come on Martin & Lee.... You can get us all ready by then can't you      
HEKTOR

group discount grizz???  
quattrokid

Sounds like a plan Ed    
HEKTOR

phone grizz and ask! this might be the only chance you get lol
JohnnyB

Looking forward to the finished car Eddie will be pretty mental. Look's like Grizz and Lee will be busy especially with the Scottish take over.

Think the spec is a bit optomistic on a 10K budget though. Unless you have worked out a special deal with Grizz as you picked him up by his Bravestar Y fronts.
quattrokid

HEKTOR wrote:
phone grizz and ask! this might be the only chance you get lol


I already did... I took the opportunity last night while Grizz was shitfaced @ Panda's so my bill will be 50 quid all in    

wont be argueing over that     I TOLD YOU to ring Grizz last night.... did you... NOPE   biiig bills for you then Ed      

oh and Mike gets his for free  
grizz

Haha , like I said .. £50 per half hour spent on it
HEKTOR

HAHA johnny,  Grizz is a tight as a nuns chuff,  and hes a big lad so a wedgy was out of the question  

I offered him my mrs my dog and a few ££££ and he accepted.  I still think im getting the better deal  
quattrokid

cant believe you offered Jaq.... AND your pooch!!!

Jaq should be good enough to get ALL the Scottish Boys work carried out for FREE !!!

GRIZZ'S EYES WOULD MELT IF HE HAD SEEN JAQ ON THAT CURRY NIGHT OUT    

Notice HOW Grizz moves the goal posts AFTER you have kicked the ball  it wasnt 50 quid for every half hour spent on the car.... it was 50 quid ALL in ( for me) which I think is fair really concidering the fact that its a privilidge to be allowed to carry out work on my car in the first place... it hasnt ammased 229992 miles without TLC along the way....

oh well... Ed if you need a hand tackling Grizz..... we'll send in Mike, he recons he can handle him and if it turns out we need a medic... Guy can turn up in his SAR helicopter    


SO.....Tuesday it is then for me at least.... let work commence on Suzi                    

your next in line after mee>)
HEKTOR

HAHAHa  I told you  that you should have recorded the convo then you would have had legally binding proof.
HEKTOR

She's not bad looking,  worth at least a set of loba turbos lol
HEKTOR

car is on route to unit 20 (thanks AA)

rich will post up the pic
HEKTOR

car has finally made it to unit 20!
grizz

Arrived safe and sound ..
Parts ordered and should be on there way ..
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