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mikey-s

Mikey's RS project

Well I've got 99% of the parts needed for my next project, so I thought I'd get it started.  I wasn't going to do a build thread, because it's been done a million times before.. but Jimbo just changed my mind.

I pulled the engine on Friday, and so far I've only stripped a few bits off.  Sorry about the poor photos.. these were taken on my phone.

So far, the planned spec will be:

Straight RS6 turbos
Tubular manifolds
630cc injectors
044 fuel pump
710N's
MRC 1 point compression drop
MRC large intake pipes
MRC panel filter
Miltek 3" downpipes
Miltek dual
Large SMIC's
AWE flywheel


Also, I'll be fitting a new gearbox & clutch, getting all the discs resurfaced, and doing odd jobs like fitting all new front CV boots, and some water hoses etc.

More photos to follow as and when I pull my finger out..  





will1981

Top stuff Mikey! Keep the pics coming  
scoobydood

Do you mean first 2011 project?

I like it!
mikey-s

scoobydood wrote:
Do you mean first 2011 project?

I like it!


Don't know what you're talking about??
audimad100

what figures you hoping to achieve Mikey
davs4

That should be nice when finished  
marc1

That was quick Mikey, wasn't expecting this to start for a while.  Looking forward to following the thread.  

Surprised those little tables hold that weight!
mikey-s

audimad100 wrote:
what figures you hoping to achieve Mikey


I'm not sure what it will achieve to be honest... but I guess I'd be happy with a reliable 550 or so.

What sort of figures do you guys think it'll make??
will1981

mikey-s wrote:
audimad100 wrote:
what figures you hoping to achieve Mikey


I'm not sure what it will achieve to be honest... but I guess I'd be happy with a reliable 550 or so.

What sort of figures do you guys think it'll make??


Who's mapping it Mikey?
mikey-s

marc1 wrote:


Surprised those little tables hold that weight!


They are steel tables.. although they do look like wood in the photos.
audimad100

thought with the right map you will see a bit more than that, are you running a standard bottom end if yes that is going to limit you a bit
ScottR

Engine looks nice and clean.  Let me know if you need a hand making cups of coffee, etc.  I'm keen to learn how a master gets to work.  
audimad100

ScottR wrote:
Engine looks nice and clean.  Let me know if you need a hand making cups of coffee, etc.  I'm keen to learn how a master gets to work.  



by first getting a goffer for the pass that get this and flick the kettle on theres a good chap sort of jobs    
mikey-s

ScottR wrote:
Engine looks nice and clean.  Let me know if you need a hand making cups of coffee, etc.  I'm keen to learn how a master gets to work.  


You obviously have me mistaken for someone else!

@ Will:  I'm going to unleash the Viper on this one..    
calibra_se8

Great start

P.S those tables look far too over-engineered for holding the engine
will1981

mikey-s wrote:
ScottR wrote:
Engine looks nice and clean.  Let me know if you need a hand making cups of coffee, etc.  I'm keen to learn how a master gets to work.  


You obviously have me mistaken for someone else!

@ Will:  I'm going to unleash the Viper on this one..    


Excellent, when do you think she will be finished? 550 + would be just nice....
mikey-s

There's a waiting list for the manifolds.. so around 4 weeks time.
will1981

mikey-s wrote:
There's a waiting list for the manifolds.. so around 4 weeks time.


That's not too bad, at least you can do all the little bits first! Those mani's look very nice  
sis200sx

wish i had a garage and another car so icould do the same so look like i have to nurse mine to end of this year when i move back down south and comendere the rents garage as a workshop lol and i need to save some money for bits too i swear all you lot must be gettin payed about 50k a year lol

good luck with the build hope it all goes well

regards si
audimad100

wouldn't get out of bed for less than 50k   keep a real eye on you manifold, if it gets louder i would get it sorted you dont want debris going through your turbos
jimbo

with this spec mike you will get 550hp and 550 lbft running 26 psi boost, push the boost to 30 and torque will be nearer 600lbft, all this with full boost at 3k, should be nice
S4twiggy

sis200sx wrote:
wish i had a garage and another car so icould do the same so look like i have to nurse mine to end of this year when i move back down south and comendere the rents garage as a workshop lol and i need to save some money for bits too i swear all you lot must be gettin payed about 50k a year lol

good luck with the build hope it all goes well

regards si

lol i think the same mate, half of these boys on here must be earning some dosh but i love it as i get to see others do the business on these much loved Audi's and soon enough ill be there with the big boys.

good luck with the build and look forward to seeing what sort of figures you get.
S4twiggy

audimad100 wrote:
thought with the right map you will see a bit more than that, are you running a standard bottom end if yes that is going to limit you a bit

when you say bottom end can you enlighten me on that lol i know stuff but when it comes to internals im a noob. what sort of bottom end would he need to achieve more power
BillTheButcher

mikey-s wrote:
I'm going to unleash the Viper on this one..    



Really looking forward to seeing this take shape.
frazered

impressed as always Mike

on the other hand shame to modify so heavily such a peach of a car
sis200sx

audimad100 wrote:
wouldn't get out of bed for less than 50k   keep a real eye on you manifold, if it gets louder i would get it sorted you dont want debris going through your turbos


lol cheers dude i am and up to now havnt hears it since so might of been something else but they will be changed no matter what on when the enigine comes out!!
mikey-s

Only a small update..  

I removed all the heat shields in the engine bay, and gave them and the bay a really good clean.  I also pulled the front subframe off and gave that a pressure wash also. It's looking good now.

I pulled the heads off, but before I did I checked the cam timing with the setting bar, it was out an absolute mile! Ahh well, it won't be like that when it goes back together.  I held my breath when I pulled the cam covers off, but thankfully the cams looking good also.  

I've also fixed the date on the camera..

JohnnyB

mikey-s wrote:
There's a waiting list for the manifolds.. so around 4 weeks time.


What manifolds your going for Mikey??? Looks a good project sure it will be extremely fast once you've done. Rich has just my car at the weekend he's done an excellent job.
mikey-s

JohnnyB wrote:

What manifolds your going for Mikey??? Looks a good project sure it will be extremely fast once you've done. Rich has just my car at the weekend he's done an excellent job.


I'm trying a set of KKD Motorsport manifolds Johhny.  It's just a shame I've got to wait for them.

audimad100

S4twiggy wrote:
audimad100 wrote:
thought with the right map you will see a bit more than that, are you running a standard bottom end if yes that is going to limit you a bit

when you say bottom end can you enlighten me on that lol i know stuff but when it comes to internals im a noob. what sort of bottom end would he need to achieve more power


the rods are meant to be a weak link, good for 520lbft. although saying that i read here the other day a forum member is running well over that on the standard bottom end
audimad100

looking mint Mikey  
ScottR

mikey-s wrote:
I've also fixed the date on the camera..



2010?    
mikey-s

I should have said I fixed it after that photo! Cnut.
JohnnyB

mikey-s wrote:
JohnnyB wrote:

What manifolds your going for Mikey??? Looks a good project sure it will be extremely fast once you've done. Rich has just my car at the weekend he's done an excellent job.


I'm trying a set of KKD Motorsport manifolds Johhny.  It's just a shame I've got to wait for them.



Cool they look good where they from and how much if you don't mind me asking??
mikey-s

JohnnyB wrote:

Cool they look good where they from and how much if you don't mind me asking??


http://www.kkdmotorsport.com/  You will need to translate the page.  They are around 875 Euros.  They are carbon steel, not stainless, although Kalle does a stainless option.  He says the carbon steel versions can handle the heat, and are a lot less prone to cracking compared to stainless.
JohnnyB

Cool they look really good sure it will make good power on them.  

My XS power hong kong phooey ebay 99p specials are still going strong after 8,000 miles.
audimad100

JohnnyB wrote:
Cool they look really good sure it will make good power on them.  

My XS power hong kong phooey ebay 99p specials are still going strong after 8,000 miles.


did you just bolt your XS manifolds on Johnny or did you have them strengthened. heard lots of mixed reviews on these. i cant afford to stump up for MRC, Loba etc manifolds as i want to use the cash on other things on the car. do they perform better than the standard Audi manifolds.

sorry for being a nosy Fecker  
mikey-s

A little update..  The heads are back on with new bolts & compression dropping gaskets, no drama there, very straightforward.  Both sumps are back on and will be oil tight now, they were a little damp around the joints.  I found a few of the coolant hoses were swollen and soft due to having been near an oil leak, so they were all replaced. I can't fit the timing belt because I'm waiting on a thermostat, and they're on back order.  I've ordered some flywheel bolts so that can be fitted tomorrow, but today I managed to make a flywheel locking tool today because those bolts are fecking tight!

I can't fit the turbos because I'm waiting on the manifolds which means the job has pretty much come to a stop, so while I'm waiting I've fitted new CV boots and I've taken all the brake discs to be skimmed.  

That's all for now folks!  

I removed the lower & upper sumps to re-seal them, it looked very clean in there!


The turbos have been welded, I just need to set up the wastegates..


Heads threaded and blanking plugs fitted where the air injection used to fit.


I made a flywheel locking tool from a small piece of scrap ring-gear.


New coolant hose (left) compared to swollen hose.
davs4

Looking good there mate  

I've just got the same hoses to change...
Stigter

Mikey if it helps I just found thermostat part number:078121113F genuine audi part brand new in its box which I never used - not sure if its the same part number if it helps its yours FOC.  
mikey-s

Stigter wrote:
Mikey if it helps I just found thermostat part number:078121113F genuine audi part brand new in its box which I never used - not sure if its the same part number if it helps its yours FOC.  


That's the one! Sending PM now..

The power of the forum!  Awesome!  
pjbRs

Good work Mikey, threads like this are very helpful reading.
Playo

Excellent work Mikey!

I'd love to have the skills to pull an engine out like that
jimbo

glad youve got the stat sorted mate, i could have sorted you out with a brand spanker too.  
big mac

cool build mikey i'm sure the viper will work his magic and have this flying!!!! bet your looking forward to the ring again this year
dest

Lucky with the stat!
Aiden was saying they are on back order till atleast mid Feb, and has already been waiting on one for a few weeks atleast
mikey-s

Very lucky with the stat, I can get the front of the motor boxed off now!

@ Big Mac: I'll deffo be going, just need to confirm dates.

@ Jimbo: Cheers!

@ Stigter: You're a star!

I've just ordered engine mounts, and the flywheel bolts will be in stock tomorrow.  Once this lot is done then it's just a case of waiting patiently for the manifolds to arrive..

Oh and the blue silicone hoses have been sent back in exchange for black ones.

Can't wait.......  
ruxy

[/quote] liking these a lot , look a bit serious with that finish
mikey-s

Another small update..

Firstly a big thanks to Stigter..  the thermostat arrived today!  Cheers mate, that's a big help!

The flywheel bolts arrived, and rather than just bang them in and hope for the best I decided to measure them, good job I did!  The AWE flywheel & washer ring combined were 5mm shallower then the OEM flywheel which could have caused some serious damage to the crank if I hadn't bothered to measure them.  10 mins later and they were all cut down to the correct length.






I rigged up the stuff for balancing the wastegates, I'll finish these off tomorrow.




These are the intercoolers I've bagged, complete with carbon shrouds. Very similar dimensions to Wagners, but not quite as deep.



This is how I left it today, complete with new mounts, refurbed alternator, and clutch & flywheel all fitted,

ScotchBonnet

Like !
s4osh

great work matey bet you cannot wait to turn that key
Nez

Nice work mate keep up the good work
mikey-s

Small update:  Today I started at 8.30 and worked until 5pm, but I didn't manage to get much done.  I received the KKD manifolds, which are the best bit of fabrication I have seen for a long time.  So today I fitted them, along with the MRC intake pipes.. but it certainly wasn't plain sailing.

The manifolds fitted perfectly, but when I came to fit the intake pipes I found that even after fettling the mounts I couldn't get either pipe to line up with the turbo inlets.  The drivers side is 99% there, but won't go past the o-ring on the turbo so this will need a little cut to re align it.  The passenger side was way out, and had to be cut to make it align with the turbo, as well as adding a piece so it was long enough to go over the o-ring on the turbo.

At first I thought it was a problem with the KKD manifolds not putting the turbo's in the correct position, but after carefully measuring them and comparing them to OEM manifolds I came to the conclusion they are exactly the same fitment dimensions, ie the turbo flanges are in exactly the same position in relation to the cylinder head flange.

Anyway... after today's very slight drama it's now very close to being fitted into the car, I just have to weld the RS6 flanges onto the downpipes.

A mile out..


After a bit of fettling..


KKD manifolds
grizz

Looking good mate , shame about the intake pipes
mikey-s

grizz wrote:
Looking good mate , shame about the intake pipes


These things are sent to try us..  
audimad100

sweet Mikey, its really coming together Mate. the manifolds certainly look like a superb bit of kit
grizz

They sure are
ScottR

Wish my engine looked that clean. Looking good.
sis200sx

well done mate all lookin good i will admit when i move back in with parents so that i have a garage and not living in a hole like bradford where if you put a nut or a bolt bown for 2 seconds it gets nicked then i will be pullin the engine out of my 160 odd thou miler to replace bits he he well lookin forward to it

hopoe all goes well and you get the finiish as good as you want it but will say looking good mate keep it up

si
rs4fin

Manifolds

mikey-s wrote:
JohnnyB wrote:

What manifolds your going for Mikey??? Looks a good project sure it will be extremely fast once you've done. Rich has just my car at the weekend he's done an excellent job.


I'm trying a set of KKD Motorsport manifolds Johhny.  It's just a shame I've got to wait for them.



Hi,

hate to be the one to break this to you but you won´t be able to fit the MRC intake pipes with KKD manifolds. Been there, done that.

EDIT: replied before reading whole thread.
s4osh

this has probably been covered before, but are the bolt patterns the same as k03's and the rs6 k04's. ar are the kkd's a special rs6 - rs4 manifolds???
thank you for answering my dumb question
mikey-s

The manifold side of the turbo is the same, but the downpipe side is different.
s4osh

awesome, i have the tools to make downpipes so that is an excellent relief, thank you mikey and congratulations on the motor it looks like magic coming together
mikey-s

Re: Manifolds

rs4fin wrote:

Hi,

hate to be the one to break this to you but you won´t be able to fit the MRC intake pipes with KKD manifolds. Been there, done that.

EDIT: replied before reading whole thread.


I mocked up an OEM manifold and RS4 turbo on the bench, the inlet pipe still wasn't long enough to go all the way past the o-ring before it fouled the manifold. On the KKD manifolds I couldn't physically fit them until it was cut & welded.

ONE THING TO NOTE:  This isn't a dig at MRC.  I know these pipes aren't made in house, and I understand that MRC aren't going to check each and every pipe for fitment.  They (rightly so) probably depend on the skills of the fabricator and the QC at the place of manufacture.
rs4fin

Re: Manifolds

mikey-s wrote:
rs4fin wrote:

Hi,

hate to be the one to break this to you but you won´t be able to fit the MRC intake pipes with KKD manifolds. Been there, done that.

EDIT: replied before reading whole thread.


I mocked up an OEM manifold and RS4 turbo on the bench, the inlet pipe still wasn't long enough to go all the way past the o-ring before it fouled the manifold. On the KKD manifolds I couldn't physically fit them until it was cut & welded.

ONE THING TO NOTE:  This isn't a dig at MRC.  I know these pipes aren't made in house, and I understand that MRC aren't going to check each and every pipe for fitment.  They (rightly so) probably depend on the skills of the fabricator and the QC at the place of manufacture.


My post wasn´t intended as pun towards MRC either, just a side note that KKD manifolds and MRC intake pipes aren´t a direct fit. Still have my intakes unintstalled as I couldn´t find the time to modify them and it sure seemed like a lot of work. Did you manage to get any "air" between the manifold and the intakes?
mikey-s

Re: Manifolds

rs4fin wrote:
mikey-s wrote:
rs4fin wrote:

Hi,

hate to be the one to break this to you but you won´t be able to fit the MRC intake pipes with KKD manifolds. Been there, done that.

EDIT: replied before reading whole thread.


I mocked up an OEM manifold and RS4 turbo on the bench, the inlet pipe still wasn't long enough to go all the way past the o-ring before it fouled the manifold. On the KKD manifolds I couldn't physically fit them until it was cut & welded.

ONE THING TO NOTE:  This isn't a dig at MRC.  I know these pipes aren't made in house, and I understand that MRC aren't going to check each and every pipe for fitment.  They (rightly so) probably depend on the skills of the fabricator and the QC at the place of manufacture.


My post wasn´t intended as pun towards MRC either, just a side note that KKD manifolds and MRC intake pipes aren´t a direct fit. Still have my intakes unintstalled as I couldn´t find the time to modify them and it sure seemed like a lot of work. Did you manage to get any "air" between the manifold and the intakes?


Yeah, they fit really well now, with a 3-4mm gap between the manifold and intake pipe.  If you have a look at the photo above you will see where I cut the pipe, it's directly on the weld.  I did have to add a slice of stainless pipe, around 8mm on one side tapering to approx 3mm.  It's not a lot of work at all, once you work out where it has to be cut.
big mac

looking good mikey cant wait to see your results thats  gona be a monster kkd mani's look as good as i thought they would too
mikey-s

Almost there!  Just waiting on the downpipes, I've cut off the old RS4 flanges and tacked the RS6 flanges in place, but I'm leaving the welding to a mate of mine who will TIG them properly with stainless filler rod.

The turbos are on, fully plumbed in.  The intake pipes are finished, with securing brackets welded in place, and wrapped in heat reflecting tape, with nice gaps between them and the manifolds.  I've also protected the oil & water lines with reflective tape too, because things are going to get hot under there!

For the hell of me I couldn't work out why the drivers turbo oil feed pipe wouldn't fit, to get it to fit I would have had to stretch the pipe, which I was NOT going to do.  I then realised the banjo oil line adapters are sided, and I'd picked up the wrong one.. tosser.  5 minutes later and all was well again.

Looks like I haven't done much again, but it's 99.9% ready to go back in.





Flange tacked into place.
will1981

Looking good Mikey  
big mac

i am loving your work mikey and when you get the bit between your teeth you dont hang around do you!!!lol hope all goes well mate looking forward to see the results specially with the mani's on wonder weather it will sound much different too
jimbo

nice work mike , wrap the actuators while your in there as they have rubber diaphrams inside and are close to the manifolds, get some stainless steel cable ties.  
mikey-s

jimbo wrote:
nice work mike , wrap the actuators while your in there as they have rubber diaphrams inside and are close to the manifolds, get some stainless steel cable ties.  


I've wrapped the drivers side actuator, I'll do the other one on Monday.  Those stainless ties are ideal for the job, good job I've got a shed load of them!  
VasP

if you want to look even better, with similar results, get some lava mat. its self adhesive and sustains heat up to 1300F

it looks like this:

JohnnyB

Looking good Mikey.
musty

Engine looks nice and clean, great work on the intakes look neat. what mani's are they?
MilkybarKid

Looking good mate, I did the same thing on my inlet pipes (although nowhere near as tidy as I did mine while they were in place!) Well worth the hassle I'd say.
mikey-s

@ Musty: They are made by KKD Motorsport in Finland.  I'm not sure how they will work out, but the guy who built them really seems to really know his stuff.  Worth a try me thinks..
musty

mikey-s wrote:
@ Musty: They are made by KKD Motorsport in Finland.  I'm not sure how they will work out, but the guy who built them really seems to really know his stuff.  Worth a try me thinks..



cool they look they will to me  
mikey-s

The engine is finally back in!  

The first thing I did when the engine went back in was to connect up the clutch and gear linkage, because if these aren't right then there's no point carrying on.  The clutch felt really light, well it should do being new!  The gear lever was swung hard to the right, and no matter how much I adjusted it I couldn't get any gears.  Because it's a new gearbox I suspected the rod which goes side to side on the box was the wrong one, maybe too short for the box, but then I realised the problem...  there are two locations the rod can bolt into, and I picked the wrong hole!      I put it in the correct location and after a few minutes of adjustment I now have all the gears.




The main starter/alternator cable cannot run in it's original location due to the tubular manifolds, so the cable had to be re routed under the airbox.




I added some heat shield to the airbox, as it sits very close to the manifold.
 



Just a photo showing how I modded the basket to accommodate the 044 fuel pump.  




This is how I left it today. I was disappointed to find out the intercoolers I have bought need different sized couplers/reducers... I assumed they would just have used the original hoses.  Lesson for today:  Never assume!

ScottR

Those intercoolers are HUGE!!!
mikey-s

Same frontal area as Wagners, but only RS4 depth.  These are the infamous RS4intercoolers.co.uk.  I would have preferred deeper coolers.. I'll give them a try and see how they go.
jimbo

The engine is finally back in!    

The first thing I did when the engine went back in was to connect up the clutch and gear linkage, because if these aren't right then there's no point carrying on.  The clutch felt really light, well it should do being new!  The gear lever was swung hard to the right, and no matter how much I adjusted it I couldn't get any gears.  Because it's a new gearbox I suspected the rod which goes side to side on the box was the wrong one, maybe too short for the box, but then I realised the problem...  there are two locations the rod can bolt into, and I picked the wrong hole!       I put it in the correct location and after a few minutes of adjustment I now have all the gears.

week one stuff mike , i chose the wrong hole once , didnt get any gears , just got told to f+ck off.....
jimbo

mikey-s wrote:
Same frontal area as Wagners, but only RS4 depth.  These are the infamous RS4intercoolers.co.uk.  I would have preferred deeper coolers.. I'll give them a try and see how they go.

that famous web is dead now, shame because it showed some good drops.  
mikey-s

jimbo wrote:
mikey-s wrote:
Same frontal area as Wagners, but only RS4 depth.  These are the infamous RS4intercoolers.co.uk.  I would have preferred deeper coolers.. I'll give them a try and see how they go.

that famous web is dead now, shame because it showed some good drops.  


I hope you don't mean 'pressure drops'  ...    
jimbo

yeah they are full of holes you know.
audimad100

looks mint Mikey, great build up to the key turning moment. we will need to have some good video footage mate
mikey-s

Nothing much to talk about.  The silicone hoses for the intercoolers have only just arrived, so that's what was stopping me finishing off the car. It'll be running on Monday.

In the meantime I have done some preventative maintenance.. I've stripped & lubed the wiper linkage, and cleaned out the upper suspension pinch bolt holes and lubed them with CV grease as suggested elsewhere.  I've tried copperslip and it just seems to wash out.

I've also cleaned the wheels inside and out, and given them 2 coats of Poorboys wheel sealant. Should be easier to clean next time!  While I was there I gave the calipers a quick lick over with the same stuff, not sure how that'll work out though.

Also had the wheel spacers anodized to stop them from corroding.

Can't wait to "Fire up the quattro"  ....  I've been speaking with Rich, and it'll possibly be getting mapped in a few weeks, but I'll give it a couple of hundred mile shakedown first.
big mac

awesome stuff mikey bet your itching to drive it now!!!
MarkB

Any more pictures to keep us going?

What figures are you hoping for when it's finished?
big mac

MarkB wrote:
Any more pictures to keep us going?

What figures are you hoping for when it's finished?


shouldnt you be busyin the garage taking pics of your build for us??!!!  
MarkB

big mac wrote:
MarkB wrote:
Any more pictures to keep us going?

What figures are you hoping for when it's finished?


shouldnt you be busyin the garage taking pics of your build for us??!!!  


Just back from lunch @ the pub. Now won't be the best time to work on it! Plenty to come soon

Mikey will have to keep us going for now
mikey-s

No more pictures Mark, only the ones I have already posted.  There will be some more on Monday, if all goes well...

As for figures, I'm not sure!  It's a hard one to put a number on because the KKD's are a bit of an unknown, and I don't know of any other cars running these intercoolers, although they are obviously out there.  Rich says it could possibly touch 600, and I would be more than happy with that.
MarkB

The turbo's are standard RS6 aren't they? I think ~580 but 600 if it's a strong one.

Are you going to get it on some rollers?
mikey-s

They are standard RS6 turbos.  I did think I should have gone to hybrids, but hey-ho I'm doing it on a budget afterall.  

It'll be going on Dyno Demons rollers shortly after it's been mapped.
MarkB

I bet it will go really well. Who converted the turbos from RS6 fitment to RS4 for you?

Where they refurbed or new when converted?
mikey-s

I converted them, it's fairly easy but I left the tig welding to a friend of mine.  I had the wastegates set up by a garret specialist, as I couldn't get consistent results when I was trying to do them.  They were used, with 40k on them.  Next to no play in the shafts, zero endfloat, and the compressor wheels were perfect. I'm confident they are fine.
MarkB

Fingers crossed but I agree, if you are confident you know the history they should be fine.

So here's looking forward to Monday
jimbo

MarkB wrote:
Fingers crossed but I agree, if you are confident you know the history they should be fine.

So here's looking forward to Monday


you cant beat ebay for a bit of history mark.
mikey-s

jimbo wrote:
MarkB wrote:
Fingers crossed but I agree, if you are confident you know the history they should be fine.

So here's looking forward to Monday


you cant beat ebay for a bit of history mark.


Well I could have had them checked over by TD, got them to give the turbos the OK, then had to pull the engine when one of the turbos f*cks up.



TWICE    


Jim's right Mark, I just got them off Ebay.  The guy had lots of good feedback, and they looked in very good condition to me.  I'm no turbo expert, but I think they'll be fine.

Time will tell..
MarkB

LOL

Cruel Mike ...  

As you say give them a go. DIY labour is cheap
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