Oil advice and recommendations here!

oilman · Oil advice and recommendations here!

I get asked many questions about oil so I thought a thread here for all oil related questions would be a good idea and build into a FAQ or reference point for others.

So, put your oil questions here but please give the following information if you would like a recommendation:

Make
Model
Year
Engine size/type

Any mods

Type of use (road/track)

Additional info (max oil temps, current oil used)

What do you want a recommendation for? Engine, Gearbox etc?

I hope this will help and become a useful thread

Regards
Guy

Grim Reaper

Been using opieoils for couple years now and its a top rate service and pretty handy living only 20 mins away for quick top up.

RSPaul

Hi Guy, an engine oil recommendation would be good:

Make: Audi
Model: RS4 Avant
Year: 2001
Engine size/type: 2.7 V6 Biturbo

Any mods: MTM 460bhp, Milltek exhaust, downpipes & 100 cell cats

Type of use: Mainly road, occasional track

Additional info: Max oil temp seen around 130 degrees C.

What do you want a recommendation for? Engine.

Cheers,

Paul

Doug

I would say 130 is too high a temperature - even for a trackday as you have an oil cooler on the rs4.

RSPaul

Oops - my mistake - 130 is what I see on the B7 on track, the B5 max I've seen is 120.

Is that still too high? If so, what's the solution?

Doug

120 is normal for an rs4 that is thrashed.

RSPaul

Cheers Doug, I'll see what I can get it up to at a (hopefully) warm and sunny Castle Combe on Saturday

mikeyquattro

B5 RS4 Rear diff oil. Forgot to get it done at MRc, so i'll be doing it myself!

MarkB

oilman

OEM is fine. As long as any oil meets the specifications required, it will do the job properly. The OEM for Audi's is a Fuchs oil, so it is good quality

spen

Oilman

Should I move away from Synta gold?

Make Audi
Model S4
Year 1999
Engine size/type 2.7 turbocharged.

Any mods. rs4 turbos, fmic, oil cooler, exhaust, manifolds, 700 cc injectors. 25 psi boost, 500 bhp.

Type of use (road/track) Mostly road (driven like it's stolen most of the time), frequent track days.

Additional info (max oil temps, current oil used) I see 120 degrees oil temps on track, 115 degrees water temp. Increased cooling is coming soon. It's got synta gold in it at the moment. It's topped up with what I have in the garage - castrol edge 0w40 should it need any (not in the last 10000 miles). The engine has got 100k miles on it.

Cheers

oilman

What grade is the Synta gold?

To be honest with these kind of mods and hard use the Synta stuff is going to struggle.

We would recomend a proper performance synthetic, ester based such as the SIlkolene Pro S or Motul 300v. At the moment I would have a look at 10w-50, once the addtional cooling has been done you could probably drop back down to 5w-40 again.

http://www.opieoils.co.uk

Cheers

Guy.

frazered

what do you recommend for an S4 99 driven weekends mostly

I see oil temps upto 115 on the motorway and 120 on a strong run

I see your site mainly recommends 15w/40, 10w/30 and 15w/50 - possible remap coming in the future upto 320bhp so this needs to be taken into account.
thanks

oilman

Have you got the 2.7 turbo in yours?

Cheers

Guy

frazered

yes - 2.7 twin

oilman

I would go for a good 5w-40 synthetic, perhaps after the remap if the car is used hard then a 10w-50.

Brand wise, the best are ester based synthetics such as the Silkolene Pro S and the Motul 300v.

http://www.opieoils.co.uk

Cheers

Guy.

frazered

is there any point going for the 10w-50 now?

thanks again

oilman

It wont do any harm, just a little over kill at this stage.

Cheers

Guy

Graham

Interesting. I'm sure you have advised against 10W-50 in the past (same engne).

oilman

It varies.

5w-40 would be my choice, changed every 8-10,000 miles or once a year whoich ever comes first.

10w-50 wont do any harm as said but unless the engine is fairly modded, used a lot on track or just has a thirst for oil then its over kill and not needed.

Cheers

Guy.

Graham

Thanks and my recollection was incorrect, it was 10w-60 you advised against.

oilman

Oh yes, still advise againts that stuff.

Cheers

Guy.

spen

Right, Silkolene Pro S and some Castrol SRF ordered!

oilman

Good man, thanks for the order.

Cheers

Guy

ckytr

I use a 10 50w Castrol RS, this is def track proven, It's used in the FPA championship race cars, they are 1.8t but theyre pushin 360bhp on the full map. i've had no probs..

oilman

It will be 10w-60 if it is the old castrol RS.

The 1.8t at 360bhp with the correct cooling will be happy on a decent ester based 5w-40 synthetic (good for 125degc all day long) All the 10w-60 is doing is wasting power and causing excess heat due to friction.

Cheers

Guy

viperbl

oilman

Yes you are correct, we have some drag vehicles using very thin oils to try and give them the edge, also popular in circuit qualifing to help to give them the edge.

Cheers

Guy.

oilman

Any advice on oil required, please feel free to ask as I can help you

You will also find some useful info on my website here

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/oil-and-filter-service-pack-audi.aspx

All the best for 2009

Cheers
Guy

MoRS6+

Make: Audi
Model: RS6 plus
Year: 2004
Engine size/type: 4.2 V8 twin-turbo, 480hp, only 16k on the clock.

Any mods: None.

Type of use (road/track): Road only.

Current Oil: Not sure, only had car 9 months but think it's Audi OEM.

Recommendations please for engine oil in following categories: 'Budget', 'Medium cost' and 'Best there is'. Couldn't see my car listed on the link to your 'Car Service Packs' page.

Also, one quick question. I used to use some stuff called Extralube ZX1 in my old Rover Coupe Turbo which is supposed to virtually eliminate friction, could I use the same stuff in my RS6 plus? How do you rate that stuff as well?

Many thanks.

Mo.

oilman

Mo

Firstly do not use addative in your oil, it can cause more harm than good and upset the properties of the oil specification which is designed for your engine.

You should be using an oil the meets VW504.00 as this is best for the engine and is the most up to date available.

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-749-50400.aspx

There are no options, this car is too good to put lower quality oils in!

Cheers
Guy

MoRS6+

oilman

Would be best

Cheers

oilman

Anyone for some oil advice? Feel free to ask.

andream88

Hi Guy.
I'm currently using a Royal Purple 5W40 on my RS4 B5.
I asked the manufacturer to send me a data sheet with all the chemical characteristics of this oil, and it seems VERY VERY good.
What do you think about it?

Thank you

Andrea

oilman

Its ok, not bad but sadly there marketing hype is better then the oil.

Cheers

Guy

accordr

Make: Audi/Porsche
Model: RS2
Year:1995
Engine size/type:2,2 turbo
Any mods: Stock
Conditions of use :Weekend only ,spirited driving
Current Oil: Motul 300V 15/50,change every 10,000Km with oil filter
Odometer:92.000 Km

My country is Greece and the temperature is from -1C in winter, to 40C in the Summer.

Many thanks.

Adam

Welcome to the forum accordr

Please post up some pics of your RS2 when you can

S4

I was on the understanding Royal Purple is the best of the best.

Darren

Tom_S4

Hi Oilman, here are my details

Make: Audi
Model: S4
Year:1999 (pre-facelift B5)
Engine size/type:2.7 biturbo
Any mods: Stock, imminent stage 1 remap
Conditions of use: 8-10k all 'making progress' road miles with two or three track days too
Current Oil: Shell Ultra, changed 7k ago
Odometer: 79,000 miles
Climate: Southern England, -5C to 30C

Your website recommends 10W/40 High Performance Semi-Synthetic Engine Oil by either Fuchs, Mobil, Motul or Castrol. But I have noticed earlier in this post that perhaps a 5w 40 might be more suitable?

I'm looking to buy soonish, are you still running your free shipping offer?

S4

oilman

Sorry for the delay guys, it looks like we didn't get notifications. Let me know if you need any advice and if you still need help with the ones we missed.

by the way, Royal Purple is good, but very expensive, we can help supply something just as good, but a lot better priced

Bobbler

Similar to Tom above:

Make: Audi
Model: S4
Year:1998 (pre-facelift B5)
Engine size/type: 2.7
Any mods: Remap to 315ish BHP no engine mods over that really.
Conditions of use: 10k a year daily drive miles with some "spirited" driving
Current Oil: Synta Gold
Odometer: 120,000 miles
Climate: South West England, -5C to 30C ?

Just about to do a full change as part of my first stab at servicing the car myself this year

andream88

I've just ordered 8litres of Bardahl Technos C60 5w40.

Will let you know how it feels compared to the RP 5w40.

Andrea

oilman

danregs

Placed my order over the weekend

Hoping it'll arrive before Saturday so I can service my car over the weekend

My mate Jez at RK Engineering said he gets stuff from you all the time and he's always been impressed - that and the up to 35% off deal did it for me!!

confusionhunter

What about Gearbox and Diff oil? Im looking at rear diff oil in my 98 Audi t S4 Quattro 2.7t.
Vw are after 20 quid a litre for it.
Ive heard feedback that anything but the VW/Audi stuff someties means notchy gearboxes etc...
Any advice?

oilman

Any advice needed?

Feel free to ask.

Cheers

Guy

robsey29

oilman

We've had good reports back from people using the Redline MT-90 in the gearbox and either the Redline 75w-90 GL5 or Fuchs Syn 5 in the diff.

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-673-75w-90.aspx

Cheers

Tim

robsey29

markfox · oil reccomendation for b6 s4

Hi mate, can you advise what oil is best for my 03 plate b6 s4 4.2 v8?
Its compleatly standard car, does eat a little bit of oil aswell

There is alot of dispute about what oil to use all over the web and I just need a straight answer!
Also how much oil does the engine take when changing it? Also do you supply the oil filter?
Many thanks
Mark

oilman

Do you know if it is on the longlife (variable) servcie or the fixed service schedule?

Cheers

Guy

markfox

think its the long life one, serviced around every 10k, im looking to change oil and filters after every 5k tho
mark

markfox

just spotted and yes its on the long life plan

oilman

Anyone of these VW504.00 spec oils will be just fine for longlife http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-749-vw-50400-oil.aspx

Cheers

Guy

RSPaul

Hi Guy,

What is your recommendation for engine oil for a B7 RS4?

I have been using the Fuchs Titan GT1 longlife 3, but I seem to recall seeing a recommendation for Silkolene Pro something-or-other to help reduce oil consumption??

Car is mainly used on the road, but does see the occasional track day/Nurburgring trip. Its on longlife servicing, but I change the oil in-between services as well. (roughly every 8-10k).

Thanks,

oilman

Hi

Yes the Pro S is a very good choice, a real top end oil. I'd go for the 5w-40 (changed name from Silkolene to Fuchs Race).

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-68897...0-ester-synthetic-engine-oil.aspx

The only problem with that is that the Pro S doesn't meet the VW specs, so Audi won't have to honour any warranty that is left. If your out of warranty, I'd definately go for that oil.

Cheers

Tim

Andrewilk · Engine and Box Oil

Make Audi
Model S4
Year 2004
Engine size/type 4.2 V8

Any mods None

Type of use (road/track) Road

Additional info (max oil temps, current oil used) Usual running temps don't know current oil used which is why I want to change it

What do you want a recommendation for? Engine, Gearbox etc? I would like to change the engine and gearbox oil could you please let me know the best option and the capacity required.

Thanks

oilman

If you want to follow the Vw specifications, he oil you need depends on the service schedule the car is on. If it is on an annual/10k miles service, you need an oil that meets the 502.00 specification. If it's the variable service schedule, you need an oil that meets the 504.00 spec.

502.00 - http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-746-vw-50200-oil.aspx
504.00 - http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-749-vw-50400-oil.aspx

The 504.00 oils are all good oils, so make your decision based on any brand/price preference you have. With the 502.00 oils, go for a 0w-30, 5w30 or 0w-40 or 5w-40.

A lot of people that have that engine go for the Fuchs Titan Race Pro S in either 5w-30 or 5w-40 as it's a better quality oil than the VW spec ones and helps to keep that engine quiet, but it will need changing annually or at 10k.

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-394-fuchs-engine-oil.aspx?pagenum=2

Cheers

Tim

Andrewilk

Thanks for the advice, sorry for being a numpty but what is the difference between the 0w 5w 10w etc?

And can you recommend a good manual gear box oil.

Thanks

oilman

0w, 5w etc refer to how thin the oil is when cold. 0w are the thinnest motor oils available, but they aren't really needed in the UK, 5w is ideal in most cases.

If you want a really good geaxbox oil, go for the Redline MT90

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-1020-...nsmission-90-mt90-75w-90-gl4.aspx

Cheers

Tim

OdinS4

Make: Audi
Model: S4
Year: 2000
Engine size/type: 2.7T w/ RS4 turbos
Type of use (road/track): Track focused

I previously used Castrol 5W30 Longlife oil and saw oil temps up to 120C on track, but it gave a slight ticking noise after hot laps. When changed to Castrol 10W60 max temp went past 120C and also seemed to climb faster!

I live in Norway and here we see temperature extremes from -30 to +30C. I change the oil frequently but would ideally like to stay with the same viscosity all year long.

Which engine oil do you recommend for a track day vehicle?

aikihook

Hi I'm just about to put in a brand new rear diff.
What is the best recommendation - and when should it be changed? is there a wearing in period?

spankmymonkey · oilrecomendation

Hi Guy

can you recomend an engine oil and filter for my -

Make- Audi
Model- S4
Year- 1998 pre-facelift B5
Engine size/type- 2.7Bi-turbo V6. AGB

Current oil- Audi extended service (whatever that would be) changed 5k ago

Mods- chipped (boost increased) 285Bhp

Type of use- short journeys (Isle of Wight), weekend blasts

Climate- Southern England

Additional info- 140k miles, all temps sat at normal before my stat went so i cant remember.

I am looking for the best i can get for engine protection whilst not effecting performance and a recomendation of service schedule for the oil.

Many thanks

Imola

Hello mate,

I'm new to Audis

Have used you many times for my BMW's.

I've got a MTM Audi RS6 Avant (500+bhp). 2003 4.2 biturbo.

What is the BEST oil I can use?

I think it currently has OEM oil/filter.

I'll be getting an OEM filter. What's the best stuff to use to keep her running smooth and longer. She's covered 100k miles plus.

I'm looking for the best stuff. Have used Motul 300v and Royal purple in the past on the BMWs

Cheers

oilman

Imola

Hi Tim,

Thanks for the reply.

I've got 5.5litres of Royal Purple XPR 10w-40 which i bought for the m3 (didn't get round to using it).

Would you reccomend this?

Cheers

Quick pic:

oilman

Hi

If it's staying under 130C, then it should be okay, but it's not something I'd buy.

Cheers

Tim

Imola

Any reason?

If it's not suitable, i'll just buy motul from your site (as i've always been impressed with the 300v i've used).

oilman

We had some RP oils tested, not impressed with the results. Most of them had high sulphur levels, and that can cause the production of acidic compounds at high temps.

Use it up, but when you need some new oil, the 300V is as good as anything on the market.

Cheers

Tim

Imola

cool, i've spoken to a supplier who has stated that the recommended oil is 5w30 longlife, but this RP can be used as it's listed as an alternative on his system. I usually do oil changes every 6-7k anyway, so will order 300V from then on.

Cheers for your replies.

oilman

Any advice needed ?

Ask us here, will be happy to help

Cheers

Oilman

wardy124

Hi there,
S4
2003
4.2V8
bmc panel filter, miltek cat back
Castrol Edge 5W-30

The car's recently been serviced but I've driven 2.5k miles in the last 4 weeks and the low light has come on, I'm in the Czech republic and can't find anywhere that sells the castrol, but I have found Shell helix 5w-30, would it be a problem to use this to top up with? or is mixing brands a no no?

Thanks
Paul

oilman

Hi Paul

It's fine to mix the oils.

Cheers

Tim

wardy124

Thanks Tim,
That's a weight off!!

wardy124

Another one for you,
I don't like this longlife service routine, I'd rather change my oil a bit more regular!
I'll be changing the oil once a year or 10k miles. would you recommend changing from the Castrol Edge 5w-30 as I believe this is a longlife oil, or should I just stick with it?
Thanks
Paul

oilman

Hi Paul

I'm with you on that, not because it means we sell more, but because of what we hear from customers. Longlife changes really don't help the cars.

The Edge is a really good oil, for what it is, but you can do better. An ester based 5w-30 or 5w-40, like the Fuchs Pro S, Millers CFS, Gulf Competition, Motul 300V or Redline are the top level of quality

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-653-5w-30-engine-oil.aspx
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40-engine-oil.aspx

The ester ones are very good with that engine, a lot of people use them to keep the engine quiet (if I remember correctly, the timing chain can get noisy).

Cheers

Tim

wardy124

Thanks for the quick reply!
Which would you recommend of the above? I believe the S4 takes around 9.5l!! would you deliver enough for 2 oil changes to France?
Thanks
Paul

oilman

Hi Paul

I'd go for the Pro S 5w-40 or Gulf 5w-40. It's £211.74 for the Pro S or £137.95 for the Gulf. The Pro S does come with 1L free with each 5L up until midnight tonight, possibly midnight tomorrow. As the Gulf is so much cheaper, I'd be going for that as it's a very good oil.

Cheers

Tim

marc1

Make: Audi
Model: RS4 (B5)
Year: 2001
Engine type: 2.7 Bi Turbo
Performance modifications: Milltek cat back and hi flow filter. Both main cats and pre cats in place.
Driving style: Road, fast road, UK cold starts, some short journeys, possibly some UK track work and Nurbergring and SPA trips.
Any other information that may be relevant: Oil temp has been seen at 120 in the UK when pushed in the twisties (car has stock oil cooler)
What recommendation are you looking for? Engine - currently running Quantum Platinum 5W-40. Have looked at Motul 300v but was not sure if this meets the manufactures specifications of vw502.00 and vw505.00/01? Would it be suitable for a daily driver year round in the UK and Europe climates and for use on track or do the race oils provide the protection at sustained high revs but not day to day wear and low temperature?

Thanks

oilman

Hi

Don't worry about the 300V meeting the VW specs, as it's sold as a race oil, it didn't get submitted for manufacturer recommendations as it can cost hundreds of thousands for the approval. Other oils like the Fuchs Pro S, Millers CFS, Gulf Competition and Redline are the same, not submitted for manufacturer recommendations. Unofficially, they far exceed most manufacturer specs. They are fine for road use and offer better cold and hot protection than oils that meet manufacturer requirements.

Cheers

Tim

marc1

Cheers Tim, would you say this would be the best thing to go for for my use or something like the Motul 8100 or something else? Also would you recomend sticking with the 5w-40 or moving to something else?

Cheers

oilman

Hi

The 300V is a step above the 8100. If you want to go for Motul, the 300V 5w-40 is ideal.

Cheers

Tim

marc1

Cheers Tim. Not necessarily wanting to go with Montul. Looking for advice from you guys on what would be best for my application.

I've also heard that the 'race' oils are very thin and need to run for longer to heat them up. Can you confirm?

Can one oil do the above driving styles and keep the oil temps at an acceptable level at sustained high revs and give good protenction to all of the engine when cold or really do I need to be changing the prior to and after the 'Ring and SPA etc? and have a different oil for the day to days?

Cheers

oilman

Hi

Whoever has been telling you about race oils is basing their opinion on very out of date information, when race oils had to be very thick. In fact, I think the person/website is very confused, thinking thin oils take longer to warm up.

Oils like the Fuchs Pro S, Redline, Millers CFS and Gulf Competition are as good as the Motul 300V, I wouldn't say any better though. Those are all fine for road use/track use, standard service intervals and will give better cold start protection than conventional oils.

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5...aspx#Filter=[EntityIDs=@%2832%29@*ava=0]

Cheers

Tim

hillbill

Hi, i've just bought a Audi A4 3.0 and it uses oil, so needs topping up from time to time...

The previous owner give me a bottle of Castrol Edge 0w-30 but i believe this to be the wrong oil?? If so will it do any harm?

I'm looking at buying some oil asap, can you tell me if i should use Castrol Edge 5w-30 or 5w-40?

Car:
Audi
A4
2002 B6
3.0 v6 Quattro Sport
Manual

Thanks

oilman

The Edge 0w-30 will do no harm, and is not a wrong oil for it, but going to a thicker viscosity could slow the usage down a bit. Either Castrol Edge 5w-30 or the Edge 5w-40.

Cheers

Guy

hillbill

So let's say, if i took it to a garage for a service would what oil would they use?

Just on the service receipts it doesn't say what oil has been used, and i want to be topping it up with the correct oil..

I'm leaning towards the 5w-30, i'll be ordering it from yourselfs too.

hillbill

Just ordered the Castrol Edge 5w-30

marc1

TootRS

Hi, what engine oil and filter would you recommend for a TT RS S-Tronic, spirited road driving. Nothing on the website specific to this model, is it the same as the TTS?

Many thanks

marc1

Searider · Oil Rec please

Audi RS4 (B5 2000)
Remap to 430hp
Road use only
Oil temp very rarely above 95C
Currently using Synta Platinum 5W40 fully synthetic.

Occasionally have a little rattle on start up if the car's not been run for 3 or 4 days and looking for an oil that might help this. Ester based synthetic?

I notice your Gulf oils are on special offer at the moment - would the Gulf 5W40 be as good as the Silkolene Pro S 5W40?

Cheers

Duncan

Challice

Used yourselves before so glad your on here

Make -Audi
Model -S4 B5
Year -1998
Engine size/type -2.7 V6 Bi-turbo

Any mods -Filter+Box / RS4 gutted DP + RS4 system / MTM map 320bhp

Type of use (road/track) - Fast Road / Track / 1/4mile

What do you want a recommendation for? Engine, Gearbox etc?

I Need - Engine Oil
- Gearbox Oil
- Rear Diff Oil

Thanks

Martin

Zeds4

Hi opie which oils are best for me?

Make: Audi
Model: S4 B5
Year: 2000
Engine: 2.7 V6 Bi-turbo

mods: full milltek exhaust, Revo map 330 bhp

Use road only really

I'm after Engine Oil, Gearbox Oil, Rear Diff Oil

Thanks

Zahir

oilman

Hi

I would use a 5w-40 synthetic in the engine.

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40.aspx

Out of those, the best ones are the Fuchs/Silkolene Pro S, Millers CFS/CFS NT, Motul 300V, Redline and Gulf Competition. The Motul 8100 X-Cess, Millers XFS, Fuchs GT1 XTL/Supersyn, Shell Helix and Mobil Super 3000 are good, cheaper alternatives.

You need a 75w-90 for the gearbox and diff.

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-673-7...fs-manual-transmission-fluid.aspx

If you want to go for the best, the Millers CRX 75w-90 NT, Gulf Competition, Motul Gear 300, Redline MT90 and Millers TRX are ideal for the gearbox. The Castrol Universal, Motul Motylgear and Fuchs Gear Syn are all decent alternatives. The Fuchs Syn 5, Millers CRX, Redline 75w-90 GL5, Motul Gear 300 and Gulf Competition are ideal for the diff. The Fuchs Sintopoid, Castrol Syntrax Longlife, Millers TRX, Motul Motylgear, Mobil SHC and Amsoil FGR are also good choices.

Cheers

Tim

Zeds4

Thanks Tim
Do you know how much oil I will need for diff and gearbox?
Thanks

oilman

According to my data, 2.8 or 3.2L for the gearbox, 1.9L for the diff.

Cheers

Tim

oilman

Anyone in the need for any oil advice or recommendations?

We've now got our End Of Season Sale running, so it's a good time to pay us a visit!

cheers

oilman

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