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| Nudenut |
RS6 C6 Mov'it Ceramic upgrade.So I finally took the plunge... now I understand that Brakes "should" be the first upgrade before handling and then power but... like most of us power came first and that confirmed to me brakes, as good as they are on the C6, needed upgrading.After 30-130 and VMax last year I cracked the steel discs, cooked my pads and was lucky that Audi replaced the lot under warranty. I made my mind up to go Ceramic as I’m booked on track at Oulton Park next week, The Ring week after and Goodwood week after that, add in VMax again and Spa/Ring in October and it was obvious I’d be replacing the steels again either way. Decided on the Mov’it Ceramic setup, ok they’re more money but I have the ability to transfer to a future car if I change with just new mounting hats and brackets. Spoke to Kim Colllins at QST and he in turn spoke to Mov’it about the very best kit for the C6, they proposed Front: Mov’it 396mm x 40mm Ceramic discs with a 6 Pot Billet calliper & Rear: Mov’it 380mm x 32mm Ceramic discs with a 4 Pot mono block calliper with a separate handbrake calliper. Kits were ordered and made up in Germany a delivery date agreed and car went in to QST. The rear knuckles were removed from the car and sent to Mov’it where they were modified for the new setup with additional rear calliper and returned along with all the goodies within 4 days: Kit as it arrived back: 
Fronts: 
Rears: 
Knuckles: 
Add some Ally braided Teflon hoses and away we go - Rears hung with existing calliper becoming HB only: 
Fronts: 
Wheels back on: 
Done about 1k mile now, bedding in process near complete and they are awesome, no issues with feel from cold or when wet as promised and getting used to the massive power with so little pedal pressure. Thanks to Kim, Mike and Stuart at QST, great guys!! Will get some car shots on Saturday after a clean – I love them and looking forward to reaping the benefit over the next bust month and onward!! |
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| amanda |
Am so jealous Nige 
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| audimad100 |
stunning mate, i would need to sell both kidneys and my liver to fund something like that 
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| grizz |
Looking good mate 
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| pjbRs |
Very nice, i wonder how these perform compared to Auid oem ceramics? Nothing better then having the confidence your gonna stop when needed, unlike my standard S4 brakes when i first got the car.
How do you bed in ceramics? |
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| aka_dk |
One word
Mental |
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| Nudenut |
Should be a lot better and seem to be so far. 10 to 15 very soft stops (15sec) from 55mph to 10mph then 30 min cool down at 80mph... 3 x that and you are at 20% power. 600miles min gentle stopping, 1500+ for rears to catch up as circa 20% bias rear. |
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| H8CAK |
Holy shit  awesome
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| pjbRs |
Cheers.
what happened with the set that cracked? manufacturing fault? |
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| Billy |
I'm in love!
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| AliGod78 |
stoooooooooooop!
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| DavidT |
They look horrid! Can I have a passenger lap at our spring event at Oulton Park please?
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| Nudenut |
Steel brakes are happier doing short hard stops giving time to cool, hauling the 2 tonne+ barge down from 195mph time after time at VMax in one hard long stop was likely asking a bit much. tbh I hadn't even noticed the cracks (Juice spotted them at MRC RR day) and I had got used to the impaired pad performance until I drove my wife’s Fiesta and nearly put myself through the screen
Audi were very good to change them but made it clear it was a once only courtesy under warranty
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| Nudenut |
Thanks Dave of course mate, you're welcome!
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| Rasss-4 |
 im in love
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| gdavison |
Very nice Nigel .. Glad you went red .. fits the car look really well | ||||
| AliGod78 |
Last time I saw breaks (almost) as awesome as those was when I worked for an aviation spare parts company, AJW Aviation. HUGE thinks! Heavy as hell.
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| sonny |
Jesus Wept..now that is JOM (Jerk of material) cant wait to see them at the next meet, and knowing you they will be red hot too haha, nice one. | ||||
| jimbo |
mega wonga.
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| Nudenut |
So just to update:
Brakes were still retaining a lot of heat on track days, noticed mainly at The Ring but had a full car there and it's a serious test but after a couple of back to back laps I had to take the car for a run down the road to allow the ceramics to cool... so... Spoke to Movit they suggested BIGGER front discs (390mm to 420mm), BIGGER callipers and install some ducting, sounded like a plan to me, wanted 420's to start but they had to be custom made, no excuse now! QST ordered up some ducting materials, the discs came in after 6 weeks and we installed them last week and got into the ducting yesterday. Pics... 
Duct scoop from below... 
Other side of undertray into flex... 
Flexi.. 
Outlet behind discs... 
Thought I'd clean/seal the wheels tonight whilst taking pics... 
Happy days... looking forward to The Ring, Spa and ADI now to test good and proper!! 
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| gdavison |
I have three things to say
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MMYYYYYYYYYYYYYY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD
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| gdavison |
Forth things .. Cracking Clean Rims matey
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| jimbo |
where did your old discs and calipers go nige ???
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| Nudenut |
Back to Movit I'm afraid Jimbo !! |
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| Nudenut |
You shamed me into that G, thanks!! 
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| gdavison |
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| liwi |
looking good! Was looking forward to see this
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| nomad |
Thats just brutal. 16.5" discs!!!! | ||||
| AliGod78 |
Breaks bigger than some wheels out there! |
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| Graham |
Where does the duct end up at the intake end?
We need a side on shot to see how the 420mm disks look under the 21" wheels. What size would the Audi ceramics have been? |
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| Nudenut |
Hi Graham, 3rd pic, there's a purpose made intake seated into the under tray: http://i941.photobucket.com/album...ge/Car/Brake%20Ducts/P1040451.jpg Will post some pics of "wheel on" tonight as only have iPad with me at mo, the OEM are 420mm so I can drop back to 20" wheel when I change car. |
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| iR8V10 |
You won't be leaving those brakes on it when you change anyway, will you?
Brakes for life them mate! It's just that any car you have now needs at least 20" rims! |
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| Nudenut |
Exactly... R8's take a 20" don't they sir??
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| iR8V10 |
Oh yes! | ||||
| supersi |
Missed this thread, what a great set up that looks! Well done QST, Any idea of the total weight saving you have made? | ||||
| Nudenut |
Did work it out once, lost it... if someone lets me know the weight of the std steel set-up I'll get the info from Movit. I can tell you that the difference is considerable in your hands the CC discs weigh next to nout compared to the steel!! You can feel the difference on the road, improved turn-in and lighter feel without the gyro effect and damping of the steel rotors. QST did a really good job with the ducting, it's all pro race gear but so little room to fit it on a C6, (plus with fussy me standing over thier shoulders) they managed a quality solution and I'm very very pleased with the workmanship!
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| RS4Jules |
OMG them brakes are amazing
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| supersi |
Nigel .....rs6 c6 steel fronts brakes per side inc disc/caliper/carriers 390mm 21.5kg
info from supermule |
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| robj |
That's the way to do it! No fecking about.
Congrats. Super. |
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| Ian_C |
Niiiiiiiiiiiiice! | ||||
| speedfr38ky |
witness the bigness !!!
looks great! |
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| marc1 |
Wow, they are some serious stoppers. Amazing!
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| gdavison |
I LoL'd |
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| frazered |
amazing
will they fit under std s4 alloys -
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| Spinner |
Serious setup there Nige, Love it!
I'm about to sit the Phantom ducting plates on the S5, did QST look at this or go straight for the 100% bespoke option? 
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| Nudenut |
Hi matey... yeah looked at this sort of thing trouble is 1) the existing input from front is next to useless so just wouldn't get the flow I'm after so needed to vent from the undertray and 2) Mov’it don't want the shrouds fitted at all as it effects the way the discs use the air flow... plus don’t have any room at all in there. That looks pretty smart though!
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| Spinner |
Makes sense, I'm running the steel RS6 setup and obviously considerably less heat. Hoping this and some Pagid pads will sort out my issues. If not it's over to Mov-it as well but trying avoid the cost if possible!
Anyway enough of the thread hijack, congrats on whats clearly a fantastic setup! |
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| Nudenut |
Mov'it 420mm disc, caliper, bracket & pads = 14kg |
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| iR8V10 |
Nige, I have been quoted £16k all in for oem front and rear ceramics on the r8 as follows, reckon mov-it would be a cheaper option?
6 pot monoblock front caliper kit 4 pot monoblock rear caliper kit Front Brake Pads Rear Brake Pads Ceramic ventilated front discs (380x38mm) Ceramic ventilated rear discs (356x32mm) Brake Servo for Ceramic Discs Wear indicators Fitting Coding of ABS & Airbag ECU's |
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| Spinner |
That's it Dave, what did I say about that modding bug getting you again before too long
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| aka_dk |
THEY ARE THE NUTS NIGE !!!
even more scared about getting a pax in your beast now !!! |
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| iR8V10 |
It's just a quote matt. Seems so much considering that they are what 8k to spec on a new build? Is dearly love ceramics but so many other things on the wish list too! The bug has bitten already by the way! |
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| Adrian E |
Don't forget if you spec'd them from the factory they wouldn't have fitted the steel setup, so the £8k is only the price differential they think they can get away with charging. I would imagine a full set of those parts for a steel setup would be pretty close to £6k? From what I recall about the prices I'm not sure Movit would be any cheaper - maybe you wouldn't need a new servo? |
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| Cornishmoocher |
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| StumpyRS4 |
Crackin' Nige.
Dave you're bonkers even considering it. £16k for a set of brakes? |
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| Nudenut |
Sorry Dave only just seen this... Movit would be compatible yes... but added bonus of not being car specific in any way. |