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aarond

Soon to be an S4 owner



Hi,

Picking this up on Wednesday http://www.john-clark.co.uk/audi/...0-t-fsi-v6-quattro-black-edition/

Mileage is actually sitting at 36K and not 30 as advertised but they are doing the (major) service prior to pick up.

Took it for a test drive and was game over, I noticed in the glovebox a cable to connect an old ipod..if i use lightning adapter would this work?
Adrian E

Hiya

Advert link is dead for me?

Ref the service - are they changing the gearbox oil and filter (assuming its s-tronic) as that'd be due now and worth checking if not sure.

Ref ami cable - you can use a genuine Apple 40 pin to Lightning fly lead (not the brick adaptor) or buy a replacement cable from audi for about £50 IIRC

Nice Xmas present  
aarond

Adrian E wrote:
Hiya

Advert link is dead for me?

Ref the service - are they changing the gearbox oil and filter (assuming its s-tronic) as that'd be due now and worth checking if not sure.

Ref ami cable - you can use a genuine Apple 40 pin to Lightning fly lead (not the brick adaptor) or buy a replacement cable from audi for about £50 IIRC

Nice Xmas present  


http://www.john-clark.co.uk/audi/...0-t-fsi-v6-quattro-black-edition/
Hopefully this link works, will check but they said they are carrying out the major service so I guess thats included, will double check though.
Adrian E

It's due at 38k miles, but we had ours done early (at 34k) as do most people

They'll probably argue it's not necessary and it's not part of 'a service' as it's one of the additional work items not covered by any service plans

Full set of ADS options by the looks of it?  Good spec
aarond

its sitting at 36k miles just now and was agreed they would carry out the "next service which is the major service"...is it one of the items done as the major service?
Graham

Congrats re the purchase.


aarond wrote:
its sitting at 36k miles just now and was agreed they would carry out the "next service which is the major service"...is it one of the items done as the major service?


No. Logically you would think so, but I highly doubt it.
aarond

I shall email the salesman but not sure how much joy i will have now
Adrian E

I would just casually check that they are doing it as part of the major service - since it is 'due'.  Nobody in their right mind would put it off for 2k miles when it's in having a major service so they'd be being very tight if not doing it.

BUT it is not on the service schedule.  You want it documented as having been done too so ask for paperwork to support stamp in the book.

Audi do it for a fixed price for cars over 3 years old @ £175 but don't know what they'd charge for a car under that age.  It might be the same, or could be more.

Given what you're paying for the car I'd be ringing the dealer principle if you get fobbed off by the salesman.
aarond

Response back saying yeah service as agreed which includes gearbox oil
Graham

Result.
aarond

pick up today    

So as well as checking a major service was done I should be looking for documentation that the gearbox oil & filter was replaced, even if it is just a tick in the service book?

Anything else I should be checking has been done in that service?

Think will be looking to get a dog guard in the near future if anyone has any recommendations.
Adrian E

Check it's had the climate air filter changed - it's also an 'additional' item in a service.  It's easy to do yourself if they've missed it, so long as you don't break the clips under the dash!

ETA - and check tyre tread depth and matching pairs on both inside and outside edge of each tyre.  It should've been done as part of PDI but Audi dealers tend to allow tyres through that in the real world you'd rather were changed.
aarond

checked the depth already and its pretty good but will re-check..think the tyres were barum but that is also just a guess from memory.
aarond

Well went to pick up... Epc light came on as tried to pull away. Now waiting and worried.
aarond

Still waiting...
Graham

No word yet? I had an EPC light not long after collection of mine, but luckilly just a coil pack.

Fingers crossed.
aarond

So given up for today. Initial thoughts according to computer was camshaft sensor but they replaced that fault still came back so they don't know. Absolutely gutted, garage did offer a curtesy car to be fair.

Don't know when I will get the car now given the holidays and that they don't know what's wrong. Is it classed as handover complete if I don't even pull away from where it was sitting idling?!  
aarond

Got through the warranty certificate email this morning even though haven't got the car... Warranty expires Dec 2016 but was suppose to be 2 year warranty
aarond

So they are now having a look at timing chain... The thoughts are timing chain tensioner possibly failed but just a guess by the sounds of it just now and they are working to get to the timing chain
aarond

Now I have some time thanks to the dog getting me up thought I would give the story to date, the previous replies have just been quick from my phone.

To cut a long story short on Wednesday at 1330 I went to collect my new to me 2013 S4 Avant with 36K on the clock, they had just carried out the major service. Do the usual paperwork, then away to leave with a massive grin, sit in the car and I thought it feels like it is vibrating or pulsing a bit and I couldn't remember it doing it before but thought perhaps just excitement. Put her into drive, put little bit of throttle car starts running rough EPC light comes on. Stop car go and get salesman. This was all within a few seconds of getting in the car.

I opt to wait in the hope that is something simple but come about 1700 I got the dreaded news the car wont be ready today or tomorrow. Car is misfiring badly.

Yesterday as promised I got an update regarding the car, no further forward with the problem but they are now looking at the timing chain with the thoughts that a timing chain tensioner that's allowed the timing chain to move but just guess work by the sounds of it at the moment.

Really pretty gutted, audi dealership have been good so far which is the real positive thing. Hopefully they get it sorted soon.

From my reading I didn't think the later cars had timing chain issues as much as the earlier ones, should I be concerned ?
Kent_andy

Sounds like coil packs to me if its misfiring
Graham

Coil packs throw an obvious code though.
big eck

Knackered injectors maybe?
aarond

Hoping whatever it is they can fix it soon. They are looking at the chain and tensionser, hopefully know some more on Tuesday.
aarond

Just spoke to the garage turns out one of the valeters put diesel into it
Graham

aarond wrote:
Just spoke to the garage turns out one of the valeters put diesel into it


Are you going to let them remedy the situation or stand your ground for a refund?
aarond

Remedy the situation, mistakes happen, and do like the car.
coullstar

One less valater at that garage then!!  Id be asking exactly what they are going to do regards replacing the diesel.  

To be fair depend how much went in and how long it was running for.
aarond

Supposedly not much (couple of litres max) and wasn't running too long. Believe filters been replaced and injector cleaner put through as well as tank drain
colin123

nothing worse when you are looking forward to a new car.
You will be listening to every little noise the car makes for a while now until you are happy.
If in doubt. Happy motoring.
Rez

Hope you got a free full tank of diesel of out them too, sorry I mean petrol, no diesel, damn it! See how easy it is to get wrong
aarond

yep full tank of petrol (hopefully) and picked her up today
Graham

Enjoy it.
Challice

Well that was a let down after the diesel mishap, enjoy it any plans to map it
aarond

No plans to remap for the time being anyway just enjoying what I go to start with  

on the to get list is a boot liner for the dog after bit of searching on here will get one ordered from http://www.hatchbag.co.uk/ in the new year unless anyone has any other recommendations.
aarond

Perhaps first of many paranoid posts... After a drive today feels like a slight sort of vibration going through the car (feel it through the seat) at idle is this normal?
aarond

Not sure if these will work or not couple of videos one with bonnet closed and open this is when up at operating temp

http://s166.photobucket.com/user/...2-483E-A54C-8AF4793D188F.mp4.html

http://s166.photobucket.com/user/...1-42EB-959B-1E65A97F4671.mp4.html
Graham

aarond wrote:
Perhaps first of many paranoid posts... After a drive today feels like a slight sort of vibration going through the car (feel it through the seat) at idle is this normal?


Oddly, yes.
aarond

I'm happy with oddly yes 👍 Thank you for the quick reply
Graham

I find it strange the trait wasn't ironed out for the sake of refinement, but it is normal.

I think you only feel it in neutral or park, if in drive the slight load seems to make it go away. A tech did give me an explanation once but I have forgotten the detail. Something to do with the injectors at idle and pulsing.
aarond

Thanks again! Did the videos work that all sound normal?
Dippy

Its difficult to make any judgement from video clips but it sounds normal to me. Coming to a new 2015 S5 from a 2001 S4 I thought the V6T is a bit of a noisy engine. As for the vibration remember that it is a 90 degree V6 which is effectively the worst configuration of engine in terms of vibration.

Out of interest what is your warranty situation? After the debacle of putting diesel into it I'd expect the dealer to offer you something extra, line an extended warranty. Certainly ensure that the incidence is recorded somewhere in case in future you need to go to Audi UK to complain.
aarond

Thanks, 2 years Audi warranty. Going to go back up when they reopen to get full documentation of what was done. Had asked if was included in the car with the service book but when got home and checked wasn't in there.

Want to go back up as the plastic trim on the drivers seat (where the controls are) is loose and feels like the drivers seat has a slight wobble / rocking but this may be down to the loose trim.
Noggymike

Graham wrote:
I find it strange the trait wasn't ironed out for the sake of refinement, but it is normal.

I think you only feel it in neutral or park, if in drive the slight load seems to make it go away. A tech did give me an explanation once but I have forgotten the detail. Something to do with the injectors at idle and pulsing.



Or you getting old Graham
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