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BillTheButcher

Steering vibration after hitting a pothole

Driving home last night and the offside front hit a massive pothole (second one this size in a month). It sounded like someone had thrown a brick at the car.

There's now a nasty vibration through the steering wheel between 50-70.

Could it just be that a wheel weight's been knocked off or is this symptomatic of something more serious, e.g. buckled wheel?
ddidds

it is an untrue wheel. you need to get it trued
icelightblue1

Wheel balance, get them looked at by a tyre shop as a first port of call
BillTheButcher

Thanks.

The remainder of the journey home was about 10 miles but the next place I drive it will be a garage 2 miles away to get the wheel looked at.

Hopefully it just needs realigning.
s4osh

good luck hope the wheel is in good shape
BillTheButcher

Cheers.

I probably won't have chance to get it checked until next weekend but I'll post in here with the outcome.

The RS4 is more of a pothole hunter than any other car I've been in.
monkeyrs6

POT HOLE

I hit one just before x mas, MTM 19" Wheels had just been re painted unit 20 diagnosed it as a bent wheel. Steering wheel juders slightly up to 30 miles per hour then  stops. 90 to straighten and re paint, thought i would wait till the slippery season had ended.Tim
Aragorn

Worth phoning around.

The missus hit a pot hole in her old fiesta. Took the car to a local garage to get it balanced, who informed us the wheel was slightly bent and pointed out the visible flat.

He said he could get it fixed, and only charged 20 to have it straightened!
bluebrakes

Wheels in motion do alloy repair now.

Can't recommend them enough.
monkeyrs6

Bent alloy

Alloy wheels can require heating up to straighten, the company i use charge 35 inc vat and another 55 to re-paint/powder coat. Tim
ruxy

bluebrakes wrote:
Wheels in motion do alloy repair now.

Can't recommend them enough.
where are they based brakes of blue? i need to get 2 of mine trued now after this winter. or if anyone knows of any other places 't up north' i,d be grateful.
BillTheButcher

Re: Bent alloy

ruxy wrote:
bluebrakes wrote:
Wheels in motion do alloy repair now.

Can't recommend them enough.
where are they based

Chesham, Bucks according to their site.

monkeyrs6 wrote:
Alloy wheels can require heating up to straighten, the company i use charge 35 inc vat and another 55 to re-paint/powder coat. Tim

How much does a new wheel cost?
Aragorn

OEM rims are probably 3-500quid each new from audi, if not more.
ruxy

Aragorn wrote:
OEM rims are probably 3-500quid each new from audi, if not more.
2600+ for 4 when i asked 2 weeks ago when they refused to warranty my buckled wheels
BillTheButcher

Had them checked this morning and both front wheels are buckled.

They're the original T wheels so hopefully repair will be possible.
bluebrakes

Wheels in motion AKA blackboots.
http://www.blackboots.co.uk/contact-blackboots.php
BillTheButcher

Thanks.

That's where I'm taking it.

I know there's the offical Audi line about how they were designed to be soft to absorb the impact and safeguard the more expensive components but it is quite disheartening how easily this happened. Both potholes were on major A roads, one of them was a stretch of dual carriageway on the Oxford ring road, so I think it can only be a matter of time before it happens again.

Both happened at night so I had no chance to see or avoid them.

Found this on the web:

Searider

Chris,

It's worth following two options:

1.  Take car to an audi dealer and ask the service manager about the wheel replacement program in the letter above.  If the wheels are deformed between specified (I can't remember what they are) limits with no sign of kerbing then they may/should replace them with a couple of the later hard type.  You might even get 4.

If this doesn't work then:

2.  You'll already have a quote from Audi for replacement of the wheels to use to pursue the council.  Will take a bit of tenacity but they do pay out if their inspection and repair processes aren't up to scratch.  Mate of mine had two wheels and tyres replaced by West Sussex last autumn on his 5 series.

Duncan
BillTheButcher

Thanks Duncan.

Not sure I want the harder compound wheels...

The offside front hit the most recent pothole with such force that it knocked the steering off centre. As annoying as it is, I'd rather that kind of impact was absorbed by a repairable (soft) wheel than any other part of the car.
Searider

Fair enough - I suppose that's what the soft wheels are for.

I wasn't aware that they were more repairable than the hard type though.

I'll have to have a read up on repairing wheels.

Still might be worth getting a quote for two new soft/hard wheels and sending it off to the council.

Anybody got a link to how wheels are trued?

Duncan
BillTheButcher

As I understand it, if I'd had the harder compound wheels they would most likely have cracked rather than buckling. So they might still have been repairable but they'd have needed filling and welding rather than just straightening.
s4osh

thats a great letter read..... really hope you get this sorted at minimal costs to you
missmouse

same happened to me + a broken spring! had to get my wheel straightened & new tyre.
Powdertec in Glasgow did it for nothing for me as I bought 4 new tyres from them! ( usually 30 upwards depending on damage, they can do welding repairs if there are cracks too. And diamond cutting finishes)
Searider

Just read the bit on repairing wheels on the wheels in motion site.

Didn't realise that damge that bad could be repaired!

Would still send a letter to the council asking for two new wheels though.
andream88

ruxy wrote:
Aragorn wrote:
OEM rims are probably 3-500quid each new from audi, if not more.
2600+ for 4 when i asked 2 weeks ago when they refused to warranty my buckled wheels


As long as your car is still equipped with the T wheels, they MUST warranty your buckled wheels.

BillTheButcher

Audi and the council are being as obstructive as expected. They're saying that I shouldn't get the wheels repaired until they've had chance to inspect the damage for themselves.

Sod that. I want my car back on the road so I'm going to get them fixed next week. Should cost ~65 + VAT for each wheel at Wheels-in-Motion.
BillTheButcher

Had both wheels straightened this morning. Took them nearly 3 hours .

Well chuffed with the results: all steering wheel vibration has gone and the car tracks dead straight now.

Big to Black Boots/Wheels-in-Motion and cheers for the recommendations on here.
julex

Well,

Audis have rubber buffered outer tie rods. With age, the rubber shrinks and introduces more and more play into the steering system.

The inner tie rods can also wear out causing more play, or just ouright undo themselves causing havoc.

One more thing to check is to make sure your steering rack is still bolted by checking two bolts in your cowl space, one visible outright from driver side and the other one underneath battery and its tray.

If the steering rack is ok, your best shot is to replace inner+outer tie rod assembly with new units, preferably with new HD units on the market without the rubber buffers.

Excuse my american.
Aragorn

The S4/RS4 tie rods are solid.

The ones on my TQS are as well (it has quattro gmbh tweaked suspension from the factory), and when i replaced them last year i ended up ordering S4 ones because the A4 ones had the buffered section.
BillTheButcher

julex - not really sure I understand you.

Are you saying that the impact will have damaged the tie rod assemblies?
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