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DPest86

Which coilovers?

Morning gents,

Could i have some feedback on coilovers please as i'm looking to upgrade in the next month or two.

Looking for best bang for buck really. I know you get what you pay for usually and would love to be able to pay 1100 on some bilsteins but i can't justify it. Koni look good but for 900 still maybe abit much.

Whats everyones opinions on the AP coilovers or similar? As they are cheapish (500) and seem to be praised quite highly around the net. Or would i be better off saving abit longer and getting Konis (Lifetime warranty included, for aslong as there around ;P)

Cheers,

Alex
will1981

I have AP's at the minute (2000 miles use) which will be changed for H&R's in a week or two, IMO it depends what you want out of them:
Pro's;
Great Value.
Go nice and low.
Well made.
Cons;
Hard ride when set low.
Bit fidgety on uneaven roads.

I think if you run at around 40mm the ride would be more compliant as mine are around 60mm and I have run them lower which made day to day use impossible.

Hope that helps  
StumpyRS4

Are there different ones for S4 and RS4? Appreciate the RS is slightly heavier than the S4, but any other differences?
DPest86

Cheers for the reply Will, I dont think 40mm would be enough for my taste, 60mm would probably be about right just by looking at the car. As i want a pretty slammed look lol. Want to just be able to get my hand into the arch as a rough idea.

I appreciate if you going to upgrade the suspension, lower it and stiffen it for looks and preformance you have to expect to sacrifice ride quality slightly so that isn't really an issue aslong as its not bone shattering or dash rattling

I'm guessing then maybe it would be best though to invest in a slightly more expensive kit like the Koni's if i dont want to lose too much ride comfort, or is it wrong to think they'll ride better because there more expensive?

Cheers!
DPest86

i'm a bit of a noob when it comes to this sort of thing but i  would of thought it they would be the same aslong as its a B5?!?
DPest86

What are you running Stumpy?
StumpyRS4

OEM suspension currently but starting to feel tired...
DPest86

Ah fair enough, what do you recon would be the best thing to do? Get a cheaper set of AP or similar or save up abit longer and get Koni's?
dest

Mine has Eibach Pro Street S, which I rate highly.
They are nice and firm, but not too harsh a ride, and being progressive they get firmer the harder you corner
DPest86

Hey Dest, how much did they cost you and from where? What sort of warranty do you get with them? Thanks
dest

They were on the car when I got it, but I think they were about 700.
Antony, the previous owner had Koni's before that but sent them back cause they kept rattling
DPest86

Cheers for the info Dest! My mates got Koni's on his VR6 and there fantastic plus they come with lifetime warranty so might just bite the bullet and buy them!
dest

Ive had Koni in the past on previous cars, but were not coilovers so cant really comment regarding them.
Id recommend them as a make, but after hearing about the rattling Id be put off personally
MarkB

I have eibach's and like the fact they are stainless bodied. No rust!
dest

OOPS!
Forget what I said, he had rattling problems with Spax!    

But anyway, I can highly recommend Eibach  
Where are you in the UK? Im sure someone will be localish with coilovers so you could see what they are like
MathiasS

I have a the Eibach kit too, I think it's quite soft , I bought it new for 900 30.000km ago , If I could turn back time I wouldn't have bought em
StumpyRS4

FK Konigsport coilovers also use Koni shocks, but are cheaper...
DPest86

lol Im not interested in spax so thats a relieve! Im in Telford.

Yeah i've looked at the FK's and its cool they use koni shocks but i've read that they arent that highly recommended by some people on other forums. Anyone had any experience with them?
pjbRs

stay clear of v max

Imo Bilstein are no 1 fantastic quality and very easy to adjust.
DPest86

Yeah i don't doubt it but there are a tad expensive for me at about 1100, i think the koni price range (900) is about the maxium i could stretch to as im looking to get alloys and tyres soon aswell. 19" Borbet LW's with Vreds = 1500
MathiasS

The FK ones seem pretty good!

And they only cost around 800 here so that's only 650
DPest86

Yeah some people say they are some say there not, so im not sure what to believe lol, i think i'd rather pay abit more and get something quality and that will last years and if it doesn't is backed up with a long warranty..
scoobydood

I loved my Spax RSX adjustable coilovers... it was the rattling noise the rears made that I hated though.
supersi

Bilstein are the best
andream88

KW V3 are great, but VERY difficult to set up!

i'd suggest to buy a set of Bilstein PSS9 instead....
pjbRs

I agree spend a bit more and get the Bilsteins.
amanda

andream88 wrote:
KW V3 are great, but VERY difficult to set up!



I have these on my 6  
Silversea

andream88 wrote:
KW V3 are great, but VERY difficult to set up!


A mate has them on his S4 but I really wasn't impressed, it felt quite "wooden" with very little feel off them........  
scoobydood

The eibachs are closer to 850 delivered I think.
BigD's-S4

I'm on the H&R coilovers...Had them fitted for approx 3 - 4 years now. I still love em like the day they were fitted. Can be a little bouncy on bumpy roads but they handle wicked IMO especially with the ARB's aswell. Plus they are adjustable so you can go as low as you want up to 60 - 70 mm i think? I just kept mine at the 30mm drop and it's just right for me.
scoobydood

It's the 'bouncy' on bumpy roads that I hate since they are my favourite roads for enjoying my car.

I would prefer a harsher ride if the coilovers gave better control across the bumpy stuff.
sfrs4

has anyone had any experience of the k-sport coilovers, look a good price especially as they have damper and top camber adjustment.
do b5 s4 fitment coilovers fit the rs4? apart from the weight being a little more.
quattrosteph

I heard the Intrax one's are extremely good....
Dippy

I've had H&Rs and am now on KW variant 1.

The KW set was a bit cheaper (825 delivered) but similar performance to the H&Rs. I've now had the KW setup long enough to judge them slightly less good than the H&Rs in terms of handling improvement (but still very good and far, far better than OEM), but significantly better in terms of comfort (much smoother and they don't 'crash' over bumps like the H&Rs did).

I considered some of the cheaper alternatives, but I read enough negative comments across the internet that I decided it wasn't worth saving a few hundred quid at the risk of worse performance or poor longevity.
rhunter203

pjbs wrote:
I agree spend a bit more and get the Bilsteins.


Yep, totally agree. They have transformed my car. Def well worth it for the extra cash!!
MilkybarKid

I should be able to tell you how good Bilstein PSS9s are tomorrow
Virdee

MilkybarKid wrote:
I should be able to tell you how good Bilstein PSS9s are tomorrow


Wahey!!! Finally!!
MilkybarKid

Tell me about it!
Still waiting on bloody front lower arms so i can fit the ali uprights though, getting these fitted so it doesnt look like a monster truck for the stirling meet.

Gave the Mk2 ones to my mate to use on his car until mine is built, that way when i get them back they will have settled in already and on good settings and he shouldnt kill himself! (370hp, 325lbft in a mk2 golf!)
Virdee

Your a braver man than me lending some PSS9's out!
MilkybarKid

lol, good mate he does say not to believe what people seem to think on forums: that they are harsh. He is amazed by them
amanda

I think all coilovers are much harsher than drc it's just different opions on how each set are
MilkybarKid

Dont go into the DRC thing Amanda! It might well be phenomenal when its working.....
Virdee

Good feedback then! Glad to hear your mates happy at least!
MilkybarKid

Well, fronts were fitted last night, fronts this morning.
Deliberately didnt give him MRC's special rear ARB stiffener brackets so I could be sure of what was causing which differences.

Also put them all to the softest setting.

So far I havent given them any stick, just (my) normal driving.

-No nose diving under heavy breaking.
-No nose diving between gear changes while driving enthusiastically.
-No wobble on exit of corners.
-Almost no squatting on take off, not launched it yet though.
-A little bouncy over bumps of an inch or 2 (will probably fix its self when its settled?)
-Still a bit of body roll but thats to be expected really. Nowhere near as much as before.

Overall, (although I am comparing to a car that had 100k on the original shocks/springs) they are nothing short of f*cking awesome.  
Virdee

Stiffen them up and ride quality will be better over the rought stuff, and body roll will be reduced
MilkybarKid

Will probably do that in the morning when im fitting the other stuff, though I was going to be running my parents over to Stirling so didnt want them too harsh! Not happening now so all good.
xyber

I've got KW V3s and they are great. I left them at factory settings and just would them down abit. They do get very hard if really low, but I would them up 5mm and they were loads better. Weitecs are worth a look as well, made by KW and on a par with V2's
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