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CliveH
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:26 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

I'm looking for the recommended service regime for this vehicle in terms of cambelt (or is it a timing chain?), gearbox and diff oils, and any other significant milestones.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:17 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Timing chain not belt.

First brake fluid at 3yrs, then 2 yearly.

Stronic box oil at 38k miles.

Air filter and plugs 6yrs/57k miles, so be prepared for them to be original up to that!

Oil services depending on whether you are on fixed or long life - either 9K/1yr or up to 19k/2yrs.

The inspection service intervals are more like 19k/2yrs but seem to have the potential to be variable.


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CliveH
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:23 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Thanks Graham.

Any recommendations on diff oil change?

Is a full engine oil flush recommended to avoid timing chain issues as experienced with B6/B7 or is this not a problem on the B8?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:30 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

CliveH wrote:
Thanks Graham.

Any recommendations on diff oil change?

Is a full engine oil flush recommended to avoid timing chain issues as experienced with B6/B7 or is this not a problem on the B8?


Nothing in the book for diff oil. I personally think it would have to have seen some miles to be thinking of that on these just yet.

Engine flush, not something I've read about. Despite the longlife interval not always being a great plan, the long life oil is fully synth Castrol and rated quite well. Main dealers should now be using this oil for the fixed oil interval schedule too.
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CliveH
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:13 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

OK thanks.

No momentary chain rattle on startup on a B8?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:14 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Graham wrote:
CliveH wrote:
Thanks Graham.

Any recommendations on diff oil change?

Is a full engine oil flush recommended to avoid timing chain issues as experienced with B6/B7 or is this not a problem on the B8?


Nothing in the book for diff oil. I personally think it would have to have seen some miles to be thinking of that on these just yet.

Engine flush, not something I've read about. Despite the longlife interval not always being a great plan, the long life oil is fully synth Castrol and rated quite well. Main dealers should now be using this

oil for the fixed oil interval schedule too.




Our A7 has just had It's first service and they advise long life oil regardless of service intervals, so I think this is the same across the whole vag group now.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:52 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

CliveH wrote:
OK thanks.

No momentary chain rattle on startup on a B8?


No, not that I have read or observed.

The only apparently normal attribute that might be worth mentioning is a slight vibration at idle. Noteable in the car, more so in neutral than drive. Not a lumpy idle, just a sort of pulse or vibration you might feel. A service tech did explain why it is (there was a technical reason) but I have forgotten.
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Teutonic_Tamer
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:22 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

pjbRs wrote:
Graham wrote:
CliveH wrote:
Thanks Graham.

Any recommendations on diff oil change?

Is a full engine oil flush recommended to avoid timing chain issues as experienced with B6/B7 or is this not a problem on the B8?


Nothing in the book for diff oil. I personally think it would have to have seen some miles to be thinking of that on these just yet.

Engine flush, not something I've read about. Despite the longlife interval not always being a great plan, the long life oil is fully synth Castrol and rated quite well. Main dealers should now be using this oil for the fixed oil interval schedule too.




Our A7 has just had It's first service and they advise long life oil regardless of service intervals, so I think this is the same across the whole vag group now.

Feck me - its only taken Audi garages 6 years to implement this!  Volkswagen AG actually specifically instructed ALL VW Group franchised main dealers to ONLY use 504/507 oils in their workshops, even when on fixed interval time & distance servicing, from 1st December 2007 - advised to them all via ETKA sometime around August or September 2007.

And yes, the LongLife 3 504/507 oils are a very high spec lube - much better than the non-approved oil which seems to get recommended here on this forum.

For the rear diff, AFAIK, Audi still make no recommendation for oil changes (in the same vein they make no recommendations for manual gearbox oil changes), very conservative advice would be to replace every 4 years or 40k miles, but I suppose a more lax opinion would state a max of 8 years or 80k miles.

No one has mentioned the fuel filter replacement!

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:20 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Teutonic_Tamer wrote:

No one has mentioned the fuel filter replacement!

and?

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:28 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Teutonic_Tamer wrote:
much better than the non-approved oil which seems to get recommended here on this forum.


Which one are you referring to?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:21 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

CliveH wrote:
Teutonic_Tamer wrote:

No one has mentioned the fuel filter replacement!

and?

There's a canister fuel filter located under the car, usually attached to the fuel tank.  Audi (admittedly like most manufacturers these days) make no recommendation of its replacement.  A filter, by design, will eventually fill up with crap and get blocked.  Do they honestly think it should last the life of the vehicle?

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:24 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Adrian E wrote:
Teutonic_Tamer wrote:
much better than the non-approved oil which seems to get recommended here on this forum.


Which one are you referring to?

I don't think I need to repeat myself - suffice to say that that particular oil has never passed any of the current VW oil standards.  If said oil was so good, why has it never passed such oil standards?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:09 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Teutonic_Tamer wrote:
Adrian E wrote:
Teutonic_Tamer wrote:
much better than the non-approved oil which seems to get recommended here on this forum.


Which one are you referring to?

I don't think I need to repeat myself - suffice to say that that particular oil has never passed any of the current VW oil standards.  If said oil was so good, why has it never passed such oil standards?


Fair enough - guess I'll go trawl back through your old posts to find an answer.....
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:05 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Adrian E wrote:
Teutonic_Tamer wrote:
Adrian E wrote:
Teutonic_Tamer wrote:
much better than the non-approved oil which seems to get recommended here on this forum.


Which one are you referring to?

I don't think I need to repeat myself - suffice to say that that particular oil has never passed any of the current VW oil standards.  If said oil was so good, why has it never passed such oil standards?


Fair enough - guess I'll go trawl back through your old posts to find an answer.....

OK, sorry, my previous reply was a tad unfriendly.  The  non-approved oil in question is the Fuchs Pro S 5w40.  

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 6:17 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I got told the supercharger belt is due for change at 60K by a dealer today. I cannot see this in the service book, so maybe something that has been added.

Typical dealer told me when I went to collect after the car had gone in for a major service and gearbox oil change. With the car on 56K had I known I would have asked for it to be done. So another trip back for this one.
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